Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
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Which mediocre boxing trainers have lucked out with talented fighters?
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostThat may be a bit harsh. Sure Enzo lucked out with a prime sperm reaching Mrs Calzaghes ovum, but including Joe he guided 3 of the 6 fighters he trained to world titles, and given that they all came from an area roughly the size of a postage stamp in South Wales, the talent pool wasn't exactly huge. Granted, none of them apart from Joe were very good, but that's still no mean achievement.
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Originally posted by iamboxing View PostBrendan Ingle was fairly lucky. Naseem Hamed was naturally talented and could have been great with any trainer, and probably a lot better.
There's no luck involved there. He took a kid from 9 year old all the way through the amateurs,and did it with multiple other fighters too. no luck.
Lucky ones are guys like freddie roach in my mind. Only takes pros at world level.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostAthletically do you not see a difference in Hearns and Ward? lol c'mon man. Steward was the last of the few cornermen that were feared for his knowledge. Most of these other guys are smoke in mirrors.
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Originally posted by bluepete View PostI don't think Hamed with a conventional style would've done half as much. The ingle style gave everyone fits, Herol Graham gave McCallum and Kalambay murders, Jonny Nelson and Witter also went much further than their talent would've suggested.
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Im thinking maybe chepo reynoso who trains canelo. Not sure how much of it is canelos raw talent, they've trained him since he was 13. Thats not to say theyve not put the effort in, they sure have, but is canelo the only fighter he and his son train? I may be way off the mark here.Last edited by TheCleaner; 05-30-2017, 04:42 PM.
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Originally posted by iamboxing View PostHamed had superhuman power. The "Ingle Style" was for featherfisted puffs. He didn't even have an Ingle style, it was combination of instincts and a style he came up with. He even said himself in an interview with Sky, Ingle never did a 1-to-1 with him in his entire career and he had to train himself for most of his fights. During the Kelley fight he asked Brendan to train him, but he refused. He paid him £75k consultation fee. And BTW it was Herol who brought that limbo style to the Brendan gym, not Ingle. What kind of trainer publishes a book disparaging his fighter while he's still getting paid training fees? Brendan's a sleazeball.
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Originally posted by Kaspa9t9 View PostNot a bad shout.
I also agree with Virgil, I've never heard the dude give any tactical advise in the corner it's all pep talk.
Even with Kov-Ward; when Ward was in trouble early in the fight he never offered any tactical advise, all he did was pump Ward up with his emotional speeches which made Ward go out there and figure how to get back into the fight himself.
Khan also looks like trash under him.
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