Why didnt Tyson Vs. Bowe happen?

[juggernaut666]

No it's not wrong. It's documented factual history. Everyone here can read the link for themselves so trying to spin into something it's not is pointless. You also claimed that Lewis didn't attempt to fight Tyson until after the Botha fight which is clearly a lie.


But keep telling your lies. I doubt anybody here takes you seriously anyway.

And the document clearly states that Lewis is next for Tyson [provided he wins his own fight...seems like you are the one telling tall tales here now...anmd so theres no confusion which you like to play that card when wrong.....



Make of this what you will:
The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon, with the proviso that Tyson, assuming he beat Seldon, would fight Lewis next. Tyson is expected to receive $30 million for fighting Seldon.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/04/sp...l?pagewanted=2

The $13.5 million offer was reported in the NY Times prior to Tyson's scheduled fight with Seldon July 1996 (the fight was postponed0.

BOXING MONTHLY June 1996 reports a $10 milliomn offer before the Mercer-Lewis fight and says :

"Tyson and King, have paid Lewis $4 million as a step-aside fee so that tyson can go ahead with his challenge to WBA champ Bruce Seldon at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas on 13 July. Much of that money may be used to cover the legal fees that Lewis's handlers in Britain, Panix Promotions, and the USA, Main events, have spent fighting his case in U.S. courts.

Lewis prefers to look upon the huge step-aside fee as a sign that Tyson is scared of him. "If Tyson is so confident, why will he pay not to fight me ?" he asks.

The counter-question could be asked that if Lewis was so confident, why did he turn down $10 million, the highest purse of Lewis's career, for a fight with Tyson, an offer made prior to the Mercer fight ?

Lewis can think what he likes, but the truth is $4 million is relative chicken feed to the Tyson industry. Tyson will likely earn another $30 million payday for trashing Seldon and can well afford to spend a little in order to shut out Lewis for a while longer.

Tyson himself will not be scared of Lewis, least of all after having seen the trouble Mercer caused him. but he and his handlers will resent being pushed around by a "Duva-friendly" judge in New Jersey. Essentially, they have spent $4 million in order to regroup and buy time before deciding their next move."






And again....... The counter-question could be asked that if Lewis was so confident, why did he turn down $10 million, the highest purse of Lewis's career, for a fight with Tyson, an offer made prior to the Mercer fight ?

[joseph5620]

And the document clearly states that Lewis is next for Tyson [provided he wins his own fight...seems like you are the one telling tall tales here now...anmd so theres no confusion which you like to play that card when wrong.....



Make of this what you will:
The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon, with the proviso that Tyson, assuming he beat Seldon, would fight Lewis next. Tyson is expected to receive $30 million for fighting Seldon.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/04/sp...l?pagewanted=2

The $13.5 million offer was reported in the NY Times prior to Tyson's scheduled fight with Seldon July 1996 (the fight was postponed0.

BOXING MONTHLY June 1996 reports a $10 milliomn offer before the Mercer-Lewis fight and says :

"Tyson and King, have paid Lewis $4 million as a step-aside fee so that tyson can go ahead with his challenge to WBA champ Bruce Seldon at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas on 13 July. Much of that money may be used to cover the legal fees that Lewis's handlers in Britain, Panix Promotions, and the USA, Main events, have spent fighting his case in U.S. courts.

Lewis prefers to look upon the huge step-aside fee as a sign that Tyson is scared of him. "If Tyson is so confident, why will he pay not to fight me ?" he asks.

The counter-question could be asked that if Lewis was so confident, why did he turn down $10 million, the highest purse of Lewis's career, for a fight with Tyson, an offer made prior to the Mercer fight ?

Lewis can think what he likes, but the truth is $4 million is relative chicken feed to the Tyson industry. Tyson will likely earn another $30 million payday for trashing Seldon and can well afford to spend a little in order to shut out Lewis for a while longer.

Tyson himself will not be scared of Lewis, least of all after having seen the trouble Mercer caused him. but he and his handlers will resent being pushed around by a "Duva-friendly" judge in New Jersey. Essentially, they have spent $4 million in order to regroup and buy time before deciding their next move."






And again....... The counter-question could be asked that if Lewis was so confident, why did he turn down $10 million, the highest purse of Lewis's career, for a fight with Tyson, an offer made prior to the Mercer fight ?

You posted a biased editorial opinion from someone who used no sources. I posted documented facts from court. The bottom line is that Tyson avoided Lewis as his mandatory, gave up a belt, and paid him to step aside rather than fight him. So your claim that Lewis ducked Tyson until after the Botha fight is just one of the many lies you've told on this forum. Make of that what you will.

[juggernaut666]

You posted a biased editorial opinion from someone who used no sources. I posted documented facts from court. The bottom line is that Tyson avoided Lewis as his mandatory, gave up a belt, and paid him to step aside rather than fight him. So your claim that Lewis ducked Tyson until after the Botha fight is just one of the many lies you've told on this forum. Make of that what you will.

No I posted links and actual statements from the boxing council....you actually contradicted your own post because it CLEARLY states that Lewis is next for Tyson so..... I claimed lewis probably felt he could beat Tyson after watching Botha out box him for 5 rounds yes and only a fool would disagree with that assumption ...here you are again TWISTING the facts to suit your argument,my very first paragraph this


The World Boxing Council wants Tyson to defend against Lennox Lewis of England, a former champion and now its No. 1 contender. Lewis turned down a $13.5 million guarantee to fight Tyson. Lewis then accepted $4 million from King to step aside and allow Tyson to fight Seldon, with the proviso that Tyson, assuming he beat Seldon, would fight Lewis next......explained it but being the imbecile you are you will carry on about it......check and see who he fought after Seldon see if lewis was there,moron!

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[joseph5620]

No I posted links and actual statements from the boxing council....you actually contradicted your own post because it CLEARLY states that Lewis is next for Tyson so..... I claimed lewis probably felt he could beat Tyson after watching Botha out box him for 5 rounds yes and only a fool would disagree with that assumption ...here you are again TWISTING the facts to suit your argument

No, you posted an editorial. The WBC didn't write that lol. This is what you truly posted regarding Tyson-Botha:

Only up until Tyson fought botha did lewis truly go after the fight.

That was only a few post ago. The sad part is that you can't even keep up with your own lies. You should take it easy with the emoticons. I'm not impressed and they have no affect on me.

[juggernaut666]

No, you posted an editorial, The WBC didn't write that lol. This is what you truly posted regarding Tyson-Botha:




That was only a few post ago. The sad part is that you can't even keep up with your own lies. You should take it easy with the emoticons. I'm not impressed and they have no affect on me.

the sad part is my link clearly states what the boxing council decided on and what Lewis was paid and why he chose not to fight Tyson after Seldon which no one has an answer for but anyone with a brain can figure it out! You are a fool no doubt maybe top 3 around here.

[joseph5620]

the sad part is my link clearly states what the boxinmg council decided on! You are a fool no doubt maybe top 3 around here.

Whatever, Toney616. Different name, the same lies.

[juggernaut666]

Whatever, Toney616. Different name, the same lies.

must be a corso relative? On top of having another account than accusses of someone else of having one?

[joeandthebums]

April 1995: Tony Tucker challenges Bruce Seldon for the WBA title (he was #1 contender for all three major organizations)

The WBC rankings were at the time were;

C. Oliver McCall
1. Tony Tucker
2. Lennox Lewis
3. Lionel Butler

April 1995: Oliver McCall agrees terms with Frank Bruno for title defense. Bruno was ranked #7 by the WBC when fight signed.

April 1995: Mike Tyson installed as #1 by WBC (he has not fought since June 1991).

May 1995: Lennox Lewis defeats Lionel Butler in a WBC sanctioned title eliminator.

September 1995: Frank Bruno defeats Oliver McCall, becomes WBC champion.

October 1995: Lennox Lewis defeats Tommy Morrison.

November 1995: Frank Bruno signs to defend WBC title against Mike Tyson.

November 1995: Lennox Lewis serves writs on Bruno and the WBC, citing WBC Rule 2, which under their 1994 mandatory ruling states that Bruno-Lewis should of gone to purse offers.

The next mandatory date is placed at September 1996.

November 1995: At it's annual conference the WBC votes to approve the Bruno-Tyson contest.

February 1996: Lennox Lewis and Riddick Bowe negotiations for April contest collapse.

March 1996: Mike Tyson defeats Frank Bruno, becomes WBC champion.

April 1996: Mike Tyson signs to face WBA champion Bruce Seldon in July.

April 1996: Lennox Lewis files an injunction to stop fight, which is upheld.

May 1996: Lennox Lewis defeats Ray Mercer.

May 1996: Tyson ordered to resolve Lewis suit before he can fight again.

May 1996: A deal is reached;

Lewis maintains mandatory position - WBC title not at stake against Seldon,
$4 million "step-aside" money,
Lewis has an interim contest against opponent of choice (Bowe),
If Lewis wins his interim contest, Tyson must agree terms for fight by September 1st, or forfeit title.

June 1996: Mike Tyson versus Evander Holyfield is announced for a tentative date of October 18th.

July 1996: Mike Tyson delays Bruce Seldon contest due to ill health.

September 1996: Date passes for parties to agree on title contest.

September 1996: Mike Tyson is stripped of the WBC title.

September 1996: Mike Tyson defeats Bruce Seldon, becomes WBA champion.

[boxingnut712]

Two reasons Prison /Golota

This is the accurate answer above. By the time Tyson was released from prison, and had got some fight experience under his belt again Riddick Bowe had taken somewhere between 700 & 800 punches from Andrew Golota. Bowe was shot, and brain damaged. Bowe was so far shot that Eddie Futch wanted nothing to do with him anymore for the Golota rematch. It would have made no sense for Tyson to fight Bowe instead of Holyfield, Seldon, or Bruno again.

[juggernaut666]

The New Jersey Supreme Court upheld Monday a lower court's order that Mike Tyson's next fight must be against Lennox Lewis. The unanimous ruling denies Tyson's appeal and prevents him from fighting World Boxing Association champion Bruce Seldon on July 13 as scheduled. "We're pleased with the court's ruling and we think now the 11 judges who have heard this case in various ways are ensuring that equity is done," said Patrick Inglish, Lewis' lawyer. "We hope Mike Tyson fights Lennox Lewis as soon as possible."


The problem is Lewis fought Mercer after Tyson had already defeated Seldon....Lewis balked AND SO Tyson MADE THE Holyfield fight,knoweing Lewis may not fight him anyway. I think the poor showing in the Mercer fight was the reason Lewis decided not fight Tyson or persue it. Not only did Lewis balk he demanded the contract be modified to get more money.So what does Tyson do?He fights Holyfield which is the true money maker...shame on him....

"Because a New Jersey judge has ruled Tyson must defend the World Boxing Council title he won from Frank Bruno last March, the WBC will likely strip Tyson of that belt before the November fight." Tyson is not just dumping belts to avoid Lewis,however why is Lewis running a better question?

One can speculate this guy did this and that guy did that,the one thing that is clear is Lewis walked out on a huge pay day which was substantiated above. Lewis and King negotaittions fell through if anything.