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Old 12-25-2017, 03:16 PM #14721
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Clinton raised the top marginal rate, the economic growth in the 90s was superior to that of the 80's, fact.
Obama raised the top marginal rate and growth was significantly inferior to the 80's and 00's.


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Considering it was the biggest financial meltdown since the great depression I'd say it's a good achievement.
After a significant financial meltdown you have no where to go but up. Obama steadied the ship, but at a very mediocre growth at best.



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Which Reagan boom? growth during the 70s and 90s was higher than the Reagan years, and before then it was even higher (40s-70s), those years had much higher taxes than the Reagan years.
Inflation skyrocketed by 20% in the 70's. That growth was a big illusion, one that Reagan had to fix and did fix when he came into office. You don't hear any American praising the 70's, in fact the opposite is true, they'll all tell you how sh*tty those years were and how great the 80's were. Jimmy Carter was crushed in re election, Reagan in his re election won in a historic landslide. That should be enough to tell you how people felt about the economy in the 80's vs the 70's.

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Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires will just give them a windfall and accelerate the gap between the rich and poor. LOL at anyone thinking wages will rise, why would they? If they don't rise when corporate profits are at an all time high they won't rise if they're granted even more in tax cuts.
The taxes in the 90's under Clinton were actually much lower than the Reagan years. During Reagans reign top marginal tax rate was 50%, under Clinton top marginal tax rate was 39%, and you yourself admit growth was at its highest, therefore thank you for proving our point. Also Thank the republican house and congress that dominated the 90's for that as well and thank a moderate president who knew how to work with the republicans.

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Old 12-26-2017, 06:26 PM #14722
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After a significant financial meltdown you have no where to go but up. Obama steadied the ship, but at a very mediocre growth at best.
Exactly.

Obama started low, ie after a recession.

Yet he only managed to grow GDP 2% annually with that low a baseline.

That's pathetic.

Hell, Trump has it growing by 3% annually, and he's not even done a full year yet.

And it must be stressed, Trump has a higher baseline. The Trump GDP growth is very impressive, and it's just getting going.

The grubers are fixing to see some serious growth on the level of the 1980s. Watching them try to deny it has anything to do with Trump's policies is going to be fun to watch.

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Inflation skyrocketed by 20% in the 70's. That growth was a big illusion, one that Reagan had to fix and did fix when he came into office. You don't hear any American praising the 70's, in fact the opposite is true, they'll all tell you how sh*tty those years were and how great the 80's were. Jimmy Carter was crushed in re election, Reagan in his re election won in a historic landslide. That should be enough to tell you how people felt about the economy in the 80's vs the 70's.
More truth.

First off, growth was not better in the 1970s compared to the 1980s. He's either lying or repeating lies the Democrats told him.

And yes, that's counting inflation.

We haven't really had inflation for over a generation. People don't know how bad inflation is.

My dad put it this way: He said he got bigger raises in the 70s, but because of inflation our standard of living was worse off even with those bigger raises.

The raises in the 80s for him were smaller, but with inflation gone we lived a lot better.

I'm stunned anyone can think tax increases cause prosperity. The government is taking more money from consumers with tax raises. How the hell does that lead to an expanding economy???

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Old 12-26-2017, 07:14 PM #14723
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Exactly.

Obama started low, ie after a recession.

Yet he only managed to grow GDP 2% annually with that low a baseline.

That's pathetic.

Hell, Trump has it growing by 3% annually, and he's not even done a full year yet.

And it must be stressed, Trump has a higher baseline. The Trump GDP growth is very impressive, and it's just getting going.

The grubers are fixing to see some serious growth on the level of the 1980s. Watching them try to deny it has anything to do with Trump's policies is going to be fun to watch.



More truth.

First off, growth was not better in the 1970s compared to the 1980s. He's either lying or repeating lies the Democrats told him.

And yes, that's counting inflation.

We haven't really had inflation for over a generation. People don't know how bad inflation is.

My dad put it this way: He said he got bigger raises in the 70s, but because of inflation our standard of living was worse off even with those bigger raises.

The raises in the 80s for him were smaller, but with inflation gone we lived a lot better.

I'm stunned anyone can think tax increases cause prosperity. The government is taking more money from consumers with tax raises. How the hell does that lead to an expanding economy???
When I was growing up in the late '70s the talk was all about the "Misery Index". Double digit inflation and double digit unemployment.

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Old 12-26-2017, 08:22 PM #14724
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When I was growing up in the late '70s the talk was all abought the "Misery Index". Double digit inflation and double digit unemployment.
Yup, I remember that.
(and who can forget the Carter gas lines)

Carter had the Misery Index at record levels.

And here you see grubers telling us the 1970s were somehow better than the 1980s.

Gruber didn't call them "stupid" for nothing.
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trump approval rating at 46%

unless he does something to mess it up, libs will remain in meltdown mode until 2024
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Tax cut = tax avoidance. this bill does not promote economic growth. The GOP themselves admitted it by not providing one shred of evidence it would. This is because this bill simply cuts taxes on corporations, while not reducing spending. The bill does not pay for itself. It was done to reward republican donors and legislators (who cut themselves some sweet deals)

In essence it does nothing but kick our problems down the road for the next generation to deal with. Already been proven trickle down doesnt work, as shown by Reagan, Bush and Bush.

The goal of corporations is to serve its shareholders, and this bill merely gives them more leeway in shady accounting techniques.

I'm sure the monkeys here are happy to be getting a few more bananas however.
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The tax cuts lower tax rates on ALL brackets.

So us non-rich get tax cuts too.

You really must start doing some independent research and not just being a Team D trained parrot.
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