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Old 03-02-2019, 04:16 PM #11
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Ye he stepped up in 2018, but now hes reverting back to where he was before
Povetkin would be a better fight than whoever hes fighting next.
and we blame him for this why? wbc ordered wilder vs fury rematch. wilder said no problem. fury pulled out.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:23 PM #12
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and we blame him for this why? wbc ordered wilder vs fury rematch. wilder said no problem. fury pulled out.
How does this stop him from fighting a better name than Kownacki? Major fights with Whyte and Povetkin possible, he'll fight neither.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:47 PM #13
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How does this stop him from fighting a better name than Kownacki? Major fights with Whyte and Povetkin possible, he'll fight neither.
with fury pulling out, wilder's most likely opponents are king kong, breazeale and kownacki, all of whom are in the boxrec top 10.

povetkin is already commited to fighting usyk next.

haymon is dangling a wilder fight to try to get whyte to sign with pbc, so it makes zero sense to give whyte a voluntary shot if he's going to stick with hearn.
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with fury pulling out, wilder's most likely opponents are king kong, breazeale and kownacki, all of whom are in the boxrec top 10.

povetkin is already commited to fighting usyk next.

haymon is dangling a wilder fight to try to get whyte to sign with pbc, so it makes zero sense to give whyte a voluntary shot if he's going to stick with hearn.
If Wilder doesn't fight Breazeale that's a duck!
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If Wilder doesn't fight Breazeale that's a duck!
i agree. breazeale should get the next shot imo.
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Zurdo, Valdez and Saunders all agree that Wilder hasnít done nearly enough as a World Champ and think him fighting his divisions 2 biggest threats isnít doing enough especially when you look at their historic title reigns
That never seem to get criticized.
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and we blame him for this why? wbc ordered wilder vs fury rematch. wilder said no problem. fury pulled out.
Did Wilder really say "no problem"? That's some up close knowledge you've got there.

Or did he say "I've got no choice". Because, as you say, he was ORDERED to fight by the organisation he is the champion for.

This isn't some moral high ground for Wilder. And I'm assuming there's a reason that the WBC opted to ORDER the fight after previously just sanctioning it.
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Old 03-03-2019, 05:41 AM #18
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Did Wilder really say "no problem"? That's some up close knowledge you've got there.

Or did he say "I've got no choice". Because, as you say, he was ORDERED to fight by the organisation he is the champion for.

This isn't some moral high ground for Wilder. And I'm assuming there's a reason that the WBC opted to ORDER the fight after previously just sanctioning it.
You clearly have no idea how these orgs operate. If Wilder didn't want the rematch, the WBC wouldn't have ordered the rematch. "Ordering" the rematch is just a way to help Wilder get around having to fight his mandatory.
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You clearly have no idea how these orgs operate. If Wilder didn't want the rematch, the WBC wouldn't have ordered the rematch. "Ordering" the rematch is just a way to help Wilder get around having to fight his mandatory.
They addressed that when they sanctioned the fight. They literally said he could fight Fury and they would work out the mandatory status separately.

Then they ordered Wilder to fight Fury.

So tell me, Mr WBC, why did they order the fight?
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Wilder has done nowhere near enough to be sat in Alabama demanding 50-50 from Joshua. Had maybe he started facing killers and opponents people had heard of after 30 fights as a pro maybe he could but he hasnt. Even his own fans say hes been facing Killer after Killer and when asked who those killers where they quote 2 names. Lets be real here. There are YT videos from American fight fans demanding Wilder step up the quality from 2, 3, 4 years ago. This has been a long running issue with Wilder and historically when you pick the easy fights your whole career you dont build your profile, you dont build your fanbase and you dont earn a PPV spot and you dont become a very well known superstar and you dont make mega money every fight.

Anthony Joshua got a lucky start, lets be fair about this, he got his gold medal and they used that and put alot of money in to promoting him big. As a big Joshua fan im not going to try to deny that, but Joshua started facing known names, eye brow raising names, popularity growing names and he was doing after 12 fights as a pro. Had Joshua kept on facing the level of competition from fights 10 to 20 that he had from 1 to 10 we would already be getting bored of him and saying stuff like "Hey you told us he was on a mission so why is he fighting Bob Smith who is a career Cruiser weight with a losing record, im not paying for that ****". Team Joshua got our attention and kept it.

Thats where Wilder has gone wrong and his very experienced team and management know what they are doing so i dont think they have just made a mistake in regards to the promotion of Wilder and his career they have purposely done it the way they have and the only reason i can see why they would want to limit the exposure and level of opposition and not build the name and not build the money coming in is because they know Wilder is very vulnerable and at risk of an embarrassing defeat which would set them back so much cuz they dont have much of a hardcore support that is willing to support through the good times and bad.

1 defeat for Anthony Joshua and he loses all his belts but will still sell out a place like Wembley and still do up to and over a million PPV's. 1 defeat for Deontay Wilder could do so much financial damage its clearly never been worth the risk.
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