Comments Thread For: Wilder: Luis Ortiz is Avoided By Many - I Don't Avoid People!

[juggernaut666]

So you want Wilder to avoid Ortiz but want him to fight a multiple-time drug sheet dillian Whyte? Where is the ped users B sample?
AJ is the one avoiding Wilder he don't want that straight right to land on his delicate face.. Wilder was next in line to face Wlad but Tyson Fury outpointed him.. Tyson Fury is now avoiding Wilder, so now lay back down and scream in your pillow

Ortiz was actually busted for a large amount of steroids in his system in 2014 and served his ban , got anything else besides ignoring Finkel is wilders master and embarrassed him on live T.V by calling a baby not ready for Klitchko right as soon as he grabbed the WBC belt ? lol ,In fact its so bad Finkel made sure he was wilders mouth piece talking for him on the re.tarded reasoning behind declining 100 million after the Breazeale presser...….?lmao

[Califire209]

Ortiz was actually busted for a large amount of steroids in his system in 2014 and served his ban , got anything else besides ignoring Finkel is wilders master and embarrassed him on live T.V by calling a baby not ready for Klitchko right as soon as he grabbed the WBC belt ? lol ?

Oh you must be talking about the man who has the most feared power in the HW division. Doesn't have to fight Ortiz a very dangerous counter-puncher,, but he chose to let everyone know that he don't need a doctor to step in the corner to save him. That's called a real man that's going to step back in the ring with Ortiz in the same building,, he's not going to run to Saudi Arabia with no boxing Commission.
Tyson Fury is now a full-time Wrestler and MMA Apprentice because of the fear of God that was put into him

[juggernaut666]

Oh you must be talking about the man who has the most feared power in the HW division. Doesn't have to fight Ortiz a very dangerous counter-puncher,, but he chose to let everyone know that he don't need a doctor to step in the corner to save him. That's called a real man that's going to step back in the ring with Ortiz in the same building,, he's not going to run to Saudi Arabia with no boxing Commission.
Tyson Fury is now a full-time Wrestler and MMA Apprentice because of the fear of God that was put into him

Yea so feared he was offered 100 million and even 7 by whyte himself out of his pocket ? lol

Master Finkel has his puppet close tight and under control ,theres some problems however !

Finkel is very old and is contradicting himself more then usual through memory loss ,remember the excuse he made that he first made ? That was , no one makes mega fights with no date ? Then when given a date the second time he said no one makes fights in advance and complained about being told the exact date he was offered to fight Joshua at Wembley on I believe April 13th ?

You can play the fool all you like ( you also just admitted wilder lost to a guy in the WWE ),thats what you guys do play fools and show how dumb you are on here every day ,so much I try to save my posts now for weekends bc its to much stupid all at once . Don't you know by now going to bat for a bunch of liars will NEVER work out for you and you will strike out all the time ?

[nghtmr111]

People are lying to themselves when they discredit the Ortiz win. I do believe that Joshua’s win over Wlad was more impressive, but just because it was higher profile.

People are using double standards with the argument that Ortiz is an old man and then act like Wlad wasn’t. Sure he’s old. Is he still scary as fu#k and avoided? You bet ya!

The guy is a dangerous fighter, regardless of age!

I respect your opinion. I don't mind if people disagree with me but for anyone to take credit away from Wilder's win over Ortiz as if Ortiz is/was a fluke is straight out hatred. You don't have to be a fan of Wilder to give him at least a LITTLE BIT respect for that win. I'm no Joshua hater either btw...

Out of curiosity... how do you think a fight between Ortiz vs Klitschko would have turned out? I actually think Ortiz would have beat Wlad as well. He did lose to Wilder, and even if he loses again I still think he's in the mix as one of the top 5, at least top 10, probably at 6 if anything.

[Califire209]

Yea so feared he was offered 100 million and even 7 by whyte himself out of his pocket ? lol

Master Finkel has his puppet close tight and under control ,theres some problems however !

Finkel is very old and is contradicting himself more then usual through memory loss ,remember the excuse he made that he first made ? That was , no one makes mega fights with no date ? Then when given a date the second time he said no one makes fights in advance and complained about being told the exact date he was offered to fight Joshua at Wembley on I believe April 13th ?

You can play the fool all you like ( you also just admitted wilder lost to a guy in the WWE ),thats what you guys do play fools and show how dumb you are on here every day ,so much I try to save my posts now for weekends bc its to much stupid all at once . Don't you know by now going to bat for a bunch of liars will NEVER work out for you and you will strike out all the time ?

Nothing what u says matters your idol AJ will get destroyed by Ruiz for good Lmao

[Angeljuice]

Eddie Hearn/dazn militant rage in 3-2-1.....

A man who is the longest serving Heavyweight Champ, who hasn't even attempted to fight any other champion to gain any more than his single belt.
Really sounds like he isn't ducking anyone doesn't it?

He has fought 2 world class fighters in his entire career and yet people keep banging on about how he isn't scared to face anyone.

Get real, actions speak so much more than words will ever do.

[Angeljuice]

Oh you must be talking about the man who has the most feared power in the HW division. Doesn't have to fight Ortiz a very dangerous counter-puncher,, but he chose to let everyone know that he don't need a doctor to step in the corner to save him. That's called a real man that's going to step back in the ring with Ortiz in the same building,, he's not going to run to Saudi Arabia with no boxing Commission.
Tyson Fury is now a full-time Wrestler and MMA Apprentice because of the fear of God that was put into him

The only person who rates Ortiz so highly is Wilder. There are better fighters that he won't fight and he chooses Ortiz again.

How can you be so blind? He has fought 2 World class fighters in his entire career and has avoided every single heavyweight champion in his record reign.
Whyte has fought better opponents than Wilder and has a better CV by miles.
I don't know if he is scared or his management is scared of testing him but it's easy to be champ when you refuse to fight the best fighters.

[DaNeutral.]

How come nobody can list all Ortiz achievements at HW. How come nobody wants to say what Ortiz best win is. How come i keep reading from PBC Wilder fans that Joshua ducks Ortiz when we all recently saw Ortiz duck Joshua? How come i keep reading from PBC Wilder fans that Whyte ducks Ortiz when Ortiz turned down a PPV headline fight for career high money against Whyte? Not to mention Wilder threatened to freeze Whyte out.

How come the PBC Wilder fans keep running with all the fake news they got off Youtube when the reality is Wilder has run from Joshua and Whyte and Ortiz has run from Joshua and Whyte. And just because Ruiz beat Joshua dont change NOTHING. They still ran from Joshua and Whyte.

[Inspired]

$50M + 50% revenue for 1 fight is much worse, especially when the excuse given is that you want to fight at home in Europe "for the fans", and then get exposed in America (by a 5 week replacement) anyway.

1) aj is earning way more than that vs ruiz after THAT loss...
2) $40-50m a fight for wilder vs aj...represents 4-5x his highest payday. in relative terms, is is not a big deal for aj. he earnt more from the first ruiz fight and will get far more from the rematch
3) TRUST...this matters
what wilder was offered by dazn was transparent and open. no tricks.
what aj received from wilder via EMAIL was an attempt to handicap aj to obligations he couldnt commit to legally

finkle did an interview with espn where he said 'there is no rematch clause if aj loses..and it is when and where wilder chooses'
months later Frank warren was telling the world media, right alongside finkle...that 'i saw the contract, it was a guaranteed $80m for 2 fights' and finkle, was laughing and nodding like 'yeh yeh that really is true'
how can that be when it contradicts what finkle said himself?
how dumb do you have to be to not see through that?
frank was asked how he knew, he said it's because HE was putting up the money via btsports....and the fight would have been on bt sports and promoted by frank warren
lmfao seriously? so they would have tricked aj into verbally agreeing to an offer without seeing the contract, on a network and promoter he's not signed to?
frank warren has form for legally screwing boxers.
4) '+ 50% revenue'
where did this come from? did you see the contract?
5) aj was responding to richard schaeffer who said the proposed wembley fight vs wilder would do $100m turnover. AJ/hearn said it would do $60m turnover.
so aj's response was more like 'they say it does $100m, give me $50m and ill take the fight'
however in the context it was still in reference to the proposed wembley fight.
6) the game changed because of matchroom's dazn deal...thats why aj boxed in the US. so you can't claim 'oh they wanted it in the UK then later boxed in the US so they just made an excuse for wilder'
even if aj fights in the US it will be for dazn.

[DaNeutral.]

LOL Wilder said he doesnt avoid people. Hes avoided most of the top 10 of the division for the last half a decade. LOL.