Will Spence eventually make adjustments to make the Crawford fight happen?

[KTFOKING]

I could easily flip the question and say will Crawford make the adjustment to make the fight happen? After all, he is the one who just recently said to Iole that he won't be stressed if he doesn't get any of the top PBC WWs since he's making a good living for his family. And hey, that's perfectly fine.

What Crawford does against Khan in terms of PPV buys will give us a good idea of this fight happening or not. If it bombs, I actually think it increases the chances of happening since their side will have to concede Spence being the A-side and for Crawford having to go over there for the fight happening. If it does similar amount of buys, then it will have to be a Co-PPV and is the fight big enough for that to happen?

[rickJen]

Crawford is not the one closing the door and making stupid excuses like being on the other side of the street, so Bud's not the one expected to make huge adjustments other than agree to whatever both networks find acceptable.

Yeah, that's exactly why this thread was made,
that silly other side of the street thing stated by Spence.

[Scipio2009]

We know he's fighting Porter for a title unification next.
Can't fault him for that. It's still another belt to collect from a small fighter.

But will he finally make every effort to make the Crawford fight happen considering Crawford can't possibly leave Arum?

Terence Crawford signed his contract extension knowing full well what it was; he got his guaranteed money, and he'll fight whomever Bob Arum wants him to fight.

Errol Spence Jr is on a different path, with an actual say in his own career; he's got Porter next, likely Danny Garcia and the Thurman-Pacquiao winner for the two fights after that, with Jamal James and Sergey Lipinets as likely smaller fights, before pondering a move to 154lbs if nothing interesting is still there at 147lbs.

If Terence Crawford gets the permission to fight on a Man Down Promotions card (that could likely be done in association with Top Rank and TGB Promotions) on FOX PPV, then it's an option in three fights.

Otherwise, it's not even worth talking about.

[KTFOKING]

Terence Crawford signed his contract extension knowing full well what it was; he got his guaranteed money, and he'll fight whomever Bob Arum wants him to fight.

Errol Spence Jr is on a different path, with an actual say in his own career; he's got Porter next, likely Danny Garcia and the Thurman-Pacquiao winner for the two fights after that, with Jamal James and Sergey Lipinets as likely smaller fights, before pondering a move to 154lbs if nothing interesting is still there at 147lbs.

If Terence Crawford gets the permission to fight on a Man Down Promotions card (that could likely be done in association with Top Rank and TGB Promotions) on FOX PPV, then it's an option in three fights.

Otherwise, it's not even worth talking about.

It goes without saying that Spence has more options since PBC pretty much has a chokehold on the 147 and 154 pound divisions, but we should be asking how to get this mega fight which damn near every boxing fan believes is the best fight in the sport. Joshua/Wilder has more casual sport, but just in terms of pure quality? Spence/Crawford reigns supreme at the current moment. Boxing is obviously a business, but if Crawford is going to continue getting locked out of the match ups with PBC, he may need to tell Arum to let him fight on a FOX PPV if a dual PPV between the two networks aren't possible. Need to find ways to make this fight happen, not make it further apart.

[Outwest Exp 355]

I rate Crawford higher but he has fewer options and likely less of his prime left.

I don't know how much D Garcia was asking for but a shame they couldn't secure him, it would be a good win and reduce the chances of Spence/Thurman/Porter facing Garcia in the near future, hopefully making them more likely to face Crawford. Plus Arum+Haymon making a fight together would be a good sign for the future.

As for what Spence should be prepared to do, I say both should be prepared to offer/accept 50/50 split, but boxing is rarely that simple and boxers don't get to pick their opponent often. I don't ask that they try and leave their promoter as that is rarely simple either at this level.

They offered Danny Garcia 3 million. He turned it down because he knew they were already offering Khan 5.

[Outwest Exp 355]

Crawford is not the one closing the door and making stupid excuses like being on the other side of the street, so Bud's not the one expected to make huge adjustments other than agree to whatever both networks find acceptable.

You are aware that Spence was drunk as **** that night. Besides it’s not on either of the fighters. Unless these guys are gonna be like Floyd, and bank their own fights, they fight who they are told to fight.

[Scipio2009]

If both fighters want a fight to happen, it will happen.

Crawford wants it.
Spence does not.

It also takes the fans to ask for this fight, but apparently mostly Crawford fans push for that fight.
I dont get it how people possibly support the one avoiding the fight? You gotta be some weird fanboys and/or pathetic corporate slaves to do so if Spence keeps running from the best fight out there at 147 and waits till Crawford is past prime.

Boxing fans could possibly have a great fight in the near future if they would all push for it, yet some brainwashed degenerates side with the fighter who rather fights easy prey in mismatches and avoids the fight. You are NOT boxing fans.

Terence Crawford doesn't speak for himself, and the fact that folks like you continue to push that perception is disgusting.

Terence Crawford, with a couple fights left on his deal, decided to sign away the next 5 years of his career at $3m per fight, to shut the **** up and let Arum control ****.

Terence Crawford is the new Tim Bradley; only difference is that Terence Crawford is still trying to pretend that that's not what it is. lol

[Scipio2009]

It goes without saying that Spence has more options since PBC pretty much has a chokehold on the 147 and 154 pound divisions, but we should be asking how to get this mega fight which damn near every boxing fan believes is the best fight in the sport. Joshua/Wilder has more casual sport, but just in terms of pure quality? Spence/Crawford reigns supreme at the current moment. Boxing is obviously a business, but if Crawford is going to continue getting locked out of the match ups with PBC, he may need to tell Arum to let him fight on a FOX PPV if a dual PPV between the two networks aren't possible. Need to find ways to make this fight happen, not make it further apart.

As morbid as it is, were Bob Arum to pass on, Crawford would have a better chance of being free to cross over and make the fight.

A joint PPV doesn't make sense for even a 1m PPV buys event, and that's the truth; folks selling this "ESPN and Fox Sports are going to spend all that money to market the fight to then split at most $3m" nonsense need to be called on it every time.

Put the pressure in the right spot is all I'm saying.

[KTFOKING]

As morbid as it is, were Bob Arum to pass on, Crawford would have a better chance of being free to cross over and make the fight.

A joint PPV doesn't make sense for even a 1m PPV buys event, and that's the truth; folks selling this "ESPN and Fox Sports are going to spend all that money to market the fight to then split at most $3m" nonsense need to be called on it every time.

Put the pressure in the right spot is all I'm saying.

Sure, the OP has an agenda here but that's fine. LIS, you can nitpick certain quotes from both fighters. Both have more importantly said on numerous occasions that the fight will be made and it's up to both teams to make it happen.

The split PPV could work for Wilder/Fury as that one can legitimately do over 700k-800k buys. Doesn't necessarily even have to do 1M buys but get in that ballpark.

How much do we really think Spence/Crawford do? If say Crawford/Khan does 250k buys, and that could be really pushing it but let's say it does that, then are we to really think a fight with Spence does 600-700k buys? I mean we will see what Spence does against Porter but one will have to go to the other side for this fight, that's just the reality. Unless it can become that big fight that hits certain amount of buys that makes it worth it for FOX and/or SHO to do a split PPV with ESPN.

That's why I think if the PPV bombs and does less than 200k buys, it becomes more likely, especially if Spence/Porter does like 250k buys. Then a clear A-side will have emerged instead of what it is right now.

[HarvardBlue]

Spence shouldn't have to make any adjustment. He has options.

Crawford will be fine fighting lesser opponents and getting paid well. He can make calls to fight Spence every time he has a fight coming up to help him get interest in his fights. He'll seem like the one being avoided.

We saw the same tactic with Mayweather and Pacquiao and a lot of people bought into the idea that Pacquiao wanted the fight more than Mayweather. The same thing is happening all over again.