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Old 09-06-2018, 01:06 PM #511
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mlac, mate you see any value in tommy langford vs jason wellborn. he is the taller guy and the "boxer" so should win the rematch, i think he got caught early vs wellborn and then went into a slugfest in the first fight.

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yes mate, already backed him when he moved to 5/6 from 8/11 yesterday.

what do you think about porter/garcia fight? risky but i like porter.
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yes mate, already backed him when he moved to 5/6 from 8/11 yesterday.

what do you think about porter/garcia fight? risky but i like porter.
you're sharp as always

in regards to danny vs porter, tough tough fight to bet on, danny always gets more rounds from judges than he should, he lost to thurman because he wasnt aggressive enough and didnt throw enough especially in the earlier rounds, fighters usually try to correct flaws from their first loss. porter said he didnt have a great camp and he did injure his left hand vs granados so those two might be linked. both have great chins, i think danny has better chin, danny definitely has more power
porter is gonna move a lot, danny likes to counter punching so hes gonna try to time porter on the way in

if you had to press me , i would choose fight to go distance at 4/11 as the play
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in regards to danny vs porter, tough tough fight to bet on, danny always gets more rounds from judges than he should, he lost to thurman because he wasnt aggressive enough and didnt throw enough especially in the earlier rounds, fighters usually try to correct flaws from their first loss. porter said he didnt have a great camp and he did injure his left hand vs granados so those two might be linked. both have great chins, i think danny has better chin, danny definitely has more power
porter is gonna move a lot, danny likes to counter punching so hes gonna try to time porter on the way in

if you had to press me , i would choose fight to go distance at 4/11 as the play
agree, got distance in an acca but i think ill risk porter because when the fight first got made i favored porter heavily, now i see everyone picking garcia so less confident, think he can win on activity alone..
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Mastrangelo you see anything with the american cards this weekend dude?
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Mastrangelo you see anything with the american cards this weekend dude?
I particulary like odds on Charles Martin and Porter PTS.
I think Kownacki is getting overrated after bullying two former cruiserweights - and it will be very different for him walking in on taller, longer, bigger and powerful guy. I think that left hand will be killing him all night.

Porter imo is clearly quicker than Garcia. Both have superb chins and are defensively very crafty so I don't see power as a factor.
I think Porter will use his feet - and attack coming low, making it tricky for Danny to time looping shots - and Porter will faint before beating Danny to the punch and falling inside, where Danny can only hold.
Porter takes it imo. That quick jab is going to be big factor. Danny always struggled with good jabbers (Morales, Herrera)

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I took my chance with Palicte PTS as a shocker of the weekend. Size difference is big and age will catch-up to Nietes eventually. Kind of hoping it's today.
Nietes had his toughest fights against Chango Vargas and Moises Fuentes - both taller, aggressive fighters like Palicte. If Nietes is not in top condition, I think there's chance for an upset.

I have a bit on Arroyo PTS as well. Ioka is always in close fights on this level. Arroyo is similar to Reveco, Yaegashi with his athlethicism, angles and fluid boxing.
When it was announced, I figured it's 50/50 - but Ioka is slow starter and when I saw that it was 10 rounder, I pick Arroyo now. It takes Ioka a bit to get going and Arroyo throws combinations and boxes very actively. I think He'll take 6:4, 7:3 decision.
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Mastrangelo martin won his title because opponent was injured, before that hadn't fought anybody good. He quit vs joshua. Whilst i recognise martin prefers fighters to come to him and kownacki is crude defensively , I would never bet on someone like Martin. i dont think martin is gonna throw enough shots to win. i will probably wait for in-play on this one

Great point about danny's effectiveness being reduced due to porter coming in low. danny's shots are well disguised, it is difficult to tell if he is gonna go to the body or head with the way he throws the shots and this wont be as effective vs a small compact guy like porter. also agree with danny on the inside, herrera was schooling him on the inside. But herrera and morales have better jabs than porter. herrera's jab is harder to read, is way more frequent and comes from his waist and he doesnt lunge in everytime after throwing it like porter does, and morales has a hall of fame jab. Porter is not active on the outside, it is when he gets inside that he lets his hands go , and that is because of his lack of boxing iq, brook outboxed him. Garcia does not telegraph his power shots like porter does and i can see danny catching porter with enough accurate and clean shots to win. I am probably gonna wait for in-play for this one too.
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I would never bet on someone like Martin.
You're right, his mentality is worrying - although I don't think people realise how different it is to get hit cleanly by guy like Joshua vs most other Heavyweights. He quit because he couldn't get anything going and was countered with big shot each time he opened up.
I think he's going to let his hands go against Kownacki because Pole will be giving his opportunities by coming in square and open.
Martin is a type - let's compare him to Lara or Rigondeaux style wise, who might be lazy when he has to create openings, but when openings are there - He lives by his left hand counter and pulls a trigger on sharp shots.
Kownacki drops his hands every time he attacks and is shorter men coming square. I just don't think Martin could ask for better style. Measure with right, drop big left hand - all night if you have to.
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But herrera and morales have better jabs than porter. herrera's jab is harder to read, is way more frequent and comes from his waist and he doesnt lunge in everytime after throwing it like porter does, and morales has a hall of fame jab. Porter is not active on the outside, it is when he gets inside that he lets his hands go , and that is because of his lack of boxing iq, brook outboxed him. Garcia does not telegraph his power shots like porter does and i can see danny catching porter with enough accurate and clean shots to win. I am probably gonna wait for in-play for this one too.
Better... I don't know. Porter throws different jab than those two, who are more flat-footed - but his jab is in my view clearly quicker, heavier and He's stepping in low with jab, isn't pulling back - thus will not give Garcia opportunity to counter off it.
Jab is very underrated weapon from Porter. He's not great on the outside with anything else, but his jab is always excellent.
Just because of jab and sharper eyes - in my view - he did better on the outside against Keith than Danny... and then he also works in close, which Garcia isn't doing.
It's not like Danny is that active on the outside either - he waits a lot.
I think all Shawn has to do is avoid getting hit on the way in - Which I'm confident he know how to do, with his faints and footwork - time Danny with jab, let his hands go in close and not pull straight back.
All those things Shawn is good at. I'd be very surprised if Garcia pulls this off... Shawn did so much better against Keith and it wasn't just about inside fighting. He was quicker on the outside too.


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I took a brief look at arroyo and ioka and i thought ioka looks to better more athletically gifted, more nimble on his feet, and it seems that arroyo won't like the fact he may try and find ioka.i probably give the stamina edge to ioka too. if i bet a side on this fight it would be ioka but i will watch some footage later on.
Ioka is more flat footed and straight-line fighter... He's rangier though and overall he's just good, technical fighter who can always find openings and set up counters.
I don't think Arroyo will have to go find Ioka. Kazuto should claim middle of the ring and Arroyo will try to box around him and be in and out.
Close fight, but I like Arroyo - particulary that he's coming off career best performance while Ioka was out for over a year.

Not betting big on it, just my pick. If you go with Ioka - be careful. Every fighter He ever dominated was a C level fighter They picked for voluntary defence.
He's good fighter, but on certain level - It's always close and technical for him. I don't see him separating himself from Arroyo. He's just not any better.
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Mastrangelo i revise statement about porters jab. It is quite active and deleted my opinion of ioka before reading your post...saw him fight ruenrog and was not impressed. Not gonna bet it. And yea the way you say the fight is gonna play out is accurate. Arroyo also looks like the bigger guy
mlac acca looks good
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