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At 36 years old GGG has only faced 4 world champions

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  • #11
    Originally posted by adotd View Post
    GGG couldn't really get any good fights until he looked vulnerable in the Brook and even more so the Jacobs fight. Now he's aged everyone wants him...
    Andre Ward.......

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    • #12
      Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
      DISCLAIMER**** This includes past, present & future world champions. So It could be 5 if jacobs ends up winning the IBF title soon.

      That really puts things into perspective
      No, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.

      I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:

      Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:

      WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
      Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
      Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

      IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
      Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
      Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
      Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
      Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
      Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
      David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!

      WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
      Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
      Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
      Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
      Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

      WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
      Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
      Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
      Peter Quillin - turned down unification
      Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
      Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking

      So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
      Last edited by S7V7N; 09-01-2018, 07:06 PM.

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      • #13
        To be fair to GGG, that’s partly because he’s the main champion and fights in only one division (not a bad thing to me) and has held on to every belt hes gotten.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by S7V7N View Post
          No, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.

          I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:

          Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:

          WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
          Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
          Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

          IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
          Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
          Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
          Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
          Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
          Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
          David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!

          WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
          Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
          Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
          Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
          Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

          WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
          Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
          Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
          Peter Quillin - turned down unification
          Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
          Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking

          So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
          Shoulda coulda woulda hahahahaha

          The fact is that GGG has only faced 4 world champions

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          • #15
            Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
            Shoulda coulda woulda hahahahaha

            The fact is that GGG has only faced 4 world champions
            If that makes you happy? He also has 20 defenses & held 3 of the belts! Kinda shortens the pool available don't ya think?

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            • #16
              What? You counting regular defences and he didn't unify yntil he fought Lemieux. Cut the crap.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by S7V7N View Post
                No, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.

                I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:

                Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:

                WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
                Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
                Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

                IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
                Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
                Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
                Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
                Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
                Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
                David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!

                WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
                Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
                Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
                Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
                Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

                WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
                Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
                Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
                Peter Quillin - turned down unification
                Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
                Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking

                So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
                Very good post.

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                • #18
                  Here are the gloves Abel and Gennady are requiring Canelo to wear now



                  This cherry picker is lol...cant fight Sergeiy, cant rematch DJ, cant give Kell Brook 3 pounds, cant fight Ward, cant fight Andrade....

                  But he CAN fight guys on 2 year layoffs from JMW on 2 week notice, guys on house arrest, guys moving up from JMW like Rosado and Steven's, plodders like David Lemiuex, and career contenders like Martin Murray

                  And now dem gloves are too damn small!

                  This prima donna needs to get KTFO

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pat bateman View Post
                    How many champions have you faced in you're life Mc'comedian?
                    I like golovkin, but that's not even a proper argument.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by S7V7N View Post
                      No, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.

                      I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:

                      Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:

                      WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
                      Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
                      Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

                      IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
                      Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
                      Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
                      Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
                      Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
                      Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
                      David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!

                      WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
                      Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
                      Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
                      Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
                      Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt

                      WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
                      Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
                      Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
                      Peter Quillin - turned down unification
                      Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
                      Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking

                      So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
                      Great post, but i dont think you can reach certain posters with proper arguments.
                      I dont understand why they somehow all forgot that golovkin was once considered the most avoided boxer.

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