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At 36 years old GGG has only faced 4 world champions
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Originally posted by mcdonalds View PostDISCLAIMER**** This includes past, present & future world champions. So It could be 5 if jacobs ends up winning the IBF title soon.
That really puts things into perspective
I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:
Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:
WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!
WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
Peter Quillin - turned down unification
Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking
So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.Last edited by S7V7N; 09-01-2018, 07:06 PM.
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To be fair to GGG, that’s partly because he’s the main champion and fights in only one division (not a bad thing to me) and has held on to every belt hes gotten.
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Originally posted by S7V7N View PostNo, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.
I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:
Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:
WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!
WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
Peter Quillin - turned down unification
Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking
So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
The fact is that GGG has only faced 4 world champions
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Originally posted by S7V7N View PostNo, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.
I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:
Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:
WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!
WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
Peter Quillin - turned down unification
Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking
So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
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Here are the gloves Abel and Gennady are requiring Canelo to wear now
This cherry picker is lol...cant fight Sergeiy, cant rematch DJ, cant give Kell Brook 3 pounds, cant fight Ward, cant fight Andrade....
But he CAN fight guys on 2 year layoffs from JMW on 2 week notice, guys on house arrest, guys moving up from JMW like Rosado and Steven's, plodders like David Lemiuex, and career contenders like Martin Murray
And now dem gloves are too damn small!
This prima donna needs to get KTFO
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Originally posted by S7V7N View PostNo, it doesn't put things into perspective until you consider what champions he actually had the OPPORTUNITY to square off against.
I'll only use MW champions for this scenario but here's some food for thought:
Since Golovkin became WBA "regular" champ in 2010:
WBA Super Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG.
Felix Sturm - flat avoided for 2 years
Daniel Geale - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
IBF Champs - 2 Champs willing to fight GGG
Daniel Geale - turned down unification twice - finally fought after loosing belt
Darren Barker - wouldn't even fight GGG for zero split of purse
Felix Sturm - continued to avoid Golovkin
Sam Soliman - turned down unification offer
Jermain Taylor - stipped of belt for trouble with law
David Lemieux - our first taker of the challenge!
WBC Champs - 1 Champ willing to fight GGG
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr - turned down unification offer
Sergio Martinez - turned down unification offer
Miguel Cotto - avoided mandatory
Saul Alvarez - finally fought after avoiding mandatory & dropping belt
WBO Champs - Questionable - circumstances didn't work out for the 2 signed
Dmitry Pirog - avoided unification twice - finally signed to fight GGG but suffered back injury & withdrew
Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - dropped WBA interim when purse bid was ordered - turned down unification
Peter Quillin - turned down unification
Andy Lee - signed to fight GGG but Golovkin's father died & fight canceled. Then lost belt & became inactive.
Billy Joe Saunders - turned down unification twice - GGG has "perhaps" had the opportunity to face him in the last year, but Canelo has posed the better money & better ranking
So to summarize; How many Champs has Golovkin had the opportunity to actually face given the circumstances? About as many as he has. Now put the shoe on the other foot & ask this same question of other Champs & see how those numbers actually work out.
I dont understand why they somehow all forgot that golovkin was once considered the most avoided boxer.
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