Originally posted by sonnyboyx2
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Who is the hardest puncher in boxing history?
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Many people say Julian Jackson.
Marciano possibly too. Deadlined many top heavyweights when the dude himself was probably smaller than Tyson.
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Heavyweights there's the usual suspects. Recent times it is Tyson, Lewis, Wlad.
Overall we have Foreman, Shavers, Dempsey, Louis... Probably forgetting someone.
P4P I'm taking the all time king. Sugar Ray Robinson, although other guys were absolutely vicious as well. Alexis Arguello was a vicious puncher, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan.. Weltschmerz mentioned Naseem Hamed who was also a great 1 punch KO artist.
There's been a few great ones.
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Who is going to do the most damage if they have a free shot at Jess Willard's side as he is stooped over trying to stand up?
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostAnyone can say what they wish k.o power is measured with how much damage can one shot do....no one has that like Tyson or W.Klitchko....either one i'll take over anybody....To those stating shavers..well how many rounds and punches did it take to get Holmes down?tyson barley hit Holmes with a clean shot until the 4th round in the short fight they had..As far as ali..well he was showing sighns of brain damage in that period with shavers so of course shavers is going to get clear shots in on him ,unlike Foreman...It was also a in shape 227 pound Holmes not the skinny 210 pounder shavers fought...oops I forgot weight doesn't mean anything...
I'll also go with the words of E.Stewart and F.Roach two established guys...roach being the one who said Wlad hits harder than Tyson and trained with both..and Stewart saying Wlad along with Tyson are the two guys who hit the hardest hes ever seen with one punch k.o ability.I'd also add pad work doesn't measure power its for accuracy,you can only hit so hard on pads...Heavy bag is much more accurate setting for power besides video footage and quality opponets which does matter also.shavers ran his k.o career up fighting undersized ,under talented fighters for the most part.
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Originally posted by jiopsi View Post
Remember though ,Mercer had arguably the best chin next to 90's Foreman ,prime or not Wlad completely crushed his chin...still going with Wlad on one punch k.o ability here but can make case for Tyson as well.Rember as well Tyson was losing to Botha and probably put more into that punch that k.od Botha because he was being out boxed ,
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Originally posted by AlexKid View PostOr is that simply impossible due to their relatively small size and weight?
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..Carnera while huge wasn't a real fighter he was a groomed pro wrestler turned fighter,turned pro wrestler/" .... False!
Carnera became a pro wrestler after having a kidney removed (diabetic) which ended his boxing career. He fought from 1928 to 1944.
When discussing punching power the most important condition to consider is the chin that the power will be connecting to.
If Marciano hits anypone cleanly it will hurt, the same with Louis!
When the better quality contenders go up against known punchers they will
be more cautious about engaging them with exchanges.
A regference to Billy Conn was made however inaccurately, Conn was doing well against Louis by remaining on the move and at long range, once he decided to exchange the bout was OVER!
Carnera at 6' 5.5" and 244lbs was Ko'd by Louis mainly because of Louis's superior technical abilities. His arm angles and rotations along with his power
allows him to hurt anyone he lands cleanly on.
By the way Louis isn't exactly small....6' 2" 190--212lbs along with poccessing
techniques that no other heavy has matched. The closest technical heavy in a simular style would be Evander and some of the techniques used by Holmes.
The current heavies are one dimentional in comparison!!
If anyone thinks Wlad or Lewis is still standing after getting hit by Marciano or Louis your delusional, they were beat up by far less talents.
Alex techniques are the primary reasons for success in boxing along with experience. Size is a genetic gift not a learned skill, size can also be used against a fighter and if he hasn't been taught to adapt his "adavantage" could spell doom. Tyson took advantage of many opponents with height & weight numbers that exceeded his. It's not the "size of the dog in a fight it's about the fight inside the dog"!
Ray.
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