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Old 02-14-2020, 10:27 AM #11
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So the theory is, since Plant is a belt holder, that Smith and BJS arenít interested in the amounts because Canelo has no 168 belt. I would imagine both BJS and Smith want no less than 60/40 because they insist itís the belts that Canelo wants.

However approaching a Haymon fighter how is this going to be any easier since we saw what happened with the Charlo fight.
Oscar made the low ball offer to Jermall way back before he fought Jacobs and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with Canelo's opponent for this coming May. Try to get your facts straight. Andrade and Jermall have received no offers to fight Canelo in May. Saunders and Smith have apparently been offered about 4 million which is pretty damn low considering they are both world champions. Jacobs got 15 million and Khan got 13 million to fight Canelo but Callum Smith is supposed to be thrilled to get 4 million?????
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:31 AM #12
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Oscar made the low ball offer to Jermall way back before he fought Jacobs and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with Canelo's opponent for this coming May. Try to get your facts straight. Andrade and Jermall have received no offers to fight Canelo in May. Saunders and Smith have apparently been offered about 4 million which is pretty damn low considering they are both world champions. Jacobs got 15 million and Khan got 13 million to fight Canelo but Callum Smith is supposed to be thrilled to get 4 million?????
Smith ainít even worth $4 million. This wouldnít even be worth it if he didnít get that huge gift against Ryder...
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:45 AM #13
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It's good that Team Canelo has reached out to Caleb Plant for a potential showdown but he can forget any chance of Caleb Plant ever fighting over on DAZN because Caleb Plant is Al Haymon's undefeated token white Super middleweight IBF champion.

He needs Plant to keep those ratings up on Fox by appealing to those crossover, mainstream casual white fans. Haymon strategy is to keep him winning.

For instance, he will never pitch a title unification bout with Plant against David Benavidez because it's too risky. When Benavidez defeats him the PBC would lose that demographic.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:46 AM #14
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So the theory is, since Plant is a belt holder, that Smith and BJS arenít interested in the amounts because Canelo has no 168 belt. I would imagine both BJS and Smith want no less than 60/40 because they insist itís the belts that Canelo wants.

However approaching a Haymon fighter how is this going to be any easier since we saw what happened with the Charlo fight.
they offered charlo the fight the same time they offered Jacobs the fight lol....
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:47 AM #15
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It's good that Team Canelo has reached out to Caleb Plant for a potential showdown but he can forget any chance of Caleb Plant ever fighting over on DAZN because Caleb Plant is Al Haymon's undefeated token white Super middleweight IBF champion.

He needs Plant to keep those ratings up on Fox by appealing to those crossover, mainstream casual white fans. Haymon strategy is to keep him winning.

For instance, he will never pitch a title unification bout with Plant against David Benavidez because it's too risky. When Benavidez defeats him the PBC would lose that demographic.
caleb plant is NOT a pbc foundational piece
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So the theory is, since Plant is a belt holder, that Smith and BJS arenít interested in the amounts because Canelo has no 168 belt. I would imagine both BJS and Smith want no less than 60/40 because they insist itís the belts that Canelo wants.

However approaching a Haymon fighter how is this going to be any easier since we saw what happened with the Charlo fight.
Charlo doesnít want ANY fight because heís cycling off his ďsupplementsĒ

Unless him tweeting a VADA test from a month before his fight proves anything
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caleb plant is NOT a pbc foundational piece
I know but Fox executives love him because he's white.
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Never thought about it that way. But to be honest. Canelo from 2010-2020 his heavy bag work is massive. The snap he got on his arc, the way he leans, is freaking menacing. At 29 years of age, PEAK, this is power you don't want to mess with. Tbh, I think the way we've seen Canelo move Kovalev's body at 190lbs means Charlo got be on his A game with his high guard tolerance. What's worse is that if one assumes to guard the top Canelo can fake to the body. Canelo a very accurate body puncher. I think the ''ducking'' translates to that.
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I know but Fox executives love him because he's white.
they brought in the wwe for that audience
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Smith ainít even worth $4 million. This wouldnít even be worth it if he didnít get that huge gift against Ryder...
And if Canelo hadn't gotten two huge gifts against Golovkin he wouldn't be worth $35million per fight.

Whatever your opinion on the verdict of his fight with Ryder, Smith is the super WBA and Ring Magazine SMW champion. He deserves at least as much as Kovalev got for defending his titles against Canelo.
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