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Old 08-18-2019, 09:48 AM #1
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:53 AM #2
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PPV will probably get a million buys. The two biggest fan bases in boxing, Mexican and African American. And the TV rights for Mexico will be huge. Also PPV in the UK so they can watch the two fighters they hate the most.

He'll come close to clearing $20 mil if not more.
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:57 AM #3
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PPV will probably get a million buys. The two biggest fan bases in boxing, Mexican and African American. And the TV rights for Mexico will be huge. Also PPV in the UK so they can watch the two fighters they hate the most.

He'll come close to clearing $20 mil if not more.
So how much of this African American fanbase will turn up out of nowhere for this fight? Ive seen Wilders numbers and nothing suggests he can add much to a massive PPV sale. It will be all Mexican fans.

So dont forget now, its not Andy Ruiz its A SIDE Andy Ruiz, he got more belts, he will be generating the bigger sales cuz Wilder has proven over 40 times that he cant.

If Ruiz was to get 20 what would B side Wilder get? 10 or 15?
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So how much of this African American fanbase will turn up out of nowhere for this fight? Ive seen Wilders numbers and nothing suggests he can add much to a massive PPV sale. It will be all Mexican fans.

So dont forget now, its not Andy Ruiz its A SIDE Andy Ruiz, he got more belts, he will be generating the bigger sales cuz Wilder has proven over 40 times that he cant.

If Ruiz was to get 20 what would B side Wilder get? 10 or 15?
Wilder did more PPV's against a Brit than Canelo did against a Brit. Fury hadn't fought in America since 2013. Was coming off a 3 year layoff and his previous fight before Wilder wasn't even broadcast in America. So let's not act like Fury was a well known name in America.
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:02 AM #5
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PPV will probably get a million buys. The two biggest fan bases in boxing, Mexican and African American. And the TV rights for Mexico will be huge. Also PPV in the UK so they can watch the two fighters they hate the most.

He'll come close to clearing $20 mil if not more.
I see.

In that case, Joshua/Hearn should be perfectly fine
in cancelling the Ruiz rematch; just wait
for the Ruiz vs Wilder winner and go after all the belts
in one huge basket.
It also got the advantage of letting Wilder and Ruiz incur some damage
before he faces one of them.
Don't you agree?

Why is Hearn so freaking in a hurry anyways?
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:03 AM #6
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50/50 as it should be when 2 champions fight.
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I see.

In that case, Joshua/Hearn should be perfectly fine
in cancelling the Ruiz rematch; just wait
for the Ruiz vs Wilder winner and go after all the belts
in one huge basket.
It also got the advantage of letting Wilder and Ruiz incur some damage before the fight.
Don't you agree?
No. I want to see AJ-Ruiz II
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Old 08-18-2019, 10:05 AM #8
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What is supposed to be the guarantee money for Ruiz
in the Wilder fight, $10 million?
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What is supposed to be the guarantee money for Ruiz
in the Wilder fight, $10 million?
No. In PPV your guarantee isn't high. The money comes on the back end. The guarantee is what the promoter has to pay the fighter that night. That's why you see fighters like Canelo and GGG getting low guarantees on PPV fight night but end up tripling that on the back end.

Since there is no back end with DAZN you get a high guarantee because that's all you're going to get. Except Canelo of course because his deal has a back end depending on subscribers
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Wilder vs Fury was 50/50 so theres the answer. Wilder promoted the fight as two champions, Ruiz should actually get more with multiple belts. Without the belts Ruiz is a non champion but has a name now so the same a Breazeale whatever he got plus 5 million on top of that.
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