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Old 12-22-2019, 08:08 PM #21
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If he was british he would definitely be very very popular, not just because of his image and how he speaks so clearly, but because of his cancer story.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:11 PM #22
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true...youd have to add floyd to that list

but guys like roy, shane and bernard could never really pull it off...bernard tried a little.....danny is kinda like a MW shane mosley.....but nice and clean cut doesnt sell
True... and Floyd is a villain too. ďPop cultureĒ doesnít love Floyd they wanna see him lose
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:15 PM #23
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True... and Floyd is a villain too. ďPop cultureĒ doesnít love Floyd they wanna see him lose
ya i totally agree...floyd wasnt "menacing" to anyone...but as far as popularity hes as recognizable as tyson and even ali to some degree...
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:50 PM #24
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Stfu. What do you know about black fans to make you worth listening to?
Boxing is a sport that is followed primarily by ethnic minorities in the US, by the working class. It's always been that way. From italians, irish, blacks, hispanics and now eastern europeans.

Now before I continue with this point, here's another point
the US used to be top dog at amateur/olympic level boxing, during the cold war era. After that, you had the doping scandals and since then there is very little investment in boxing from the government. Boxing is perceived as a corrupt sport over there.
The gradual decline of the amateur level boxers in the US has coincided with it's growth globally. So suddenly many of the best boxers in the world are from all over the world.

there was a time the top 5 pound for pound list would have been all black boxers.
today there's 2 ukranians, a mexican, possibly tyson fury on it if he beats fury.

Don't get me wrong, the US is still ahead in many ways, because it is the home of boxing and has the history.
Still, it's like a cycle where black fans have seen it all before, so they're less inclined to follow the sport today compared to how they used to in the past. Mexican support is at it's height today (or over the past 10 yrs).
that only leaves a subgroup from the blacks, like a show of defiance. they are more hardcore in the sense that they truely bring their racism and xenophobia into it. that's the only time they come to life.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:55 PM #25
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I like Jacobs, good fighter. Comes across well.

His 3 losses have only came to real top quality fighters. I think he's willing to face anyone, and faced his rivals at 160.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:37 PM #26
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Boxing is a sport that is followed primarily by ethnic minorities in the US, by the working class. It's always been that way. From italians, irish, blacks, hispanics and now eastern europeans.

Now before I continue with this point, here's another point
the US used to be top dog at amateur/olympic level boxing, during the cold war era. After that, you had the doping scandals and since then there is very little investment in boxing from the government. Boxing is perceived as a corrupt sport over there.
The gradual decline of the amateur level boxers in the US has coincided with it's growth globally. So suddenly many of the best boxers in the world are from all over the world.

there was a time the top 5 pound for pound list would have been all black boxers.
today there's 2 ukranians, a mexican, possibly tyson fury on it if he beats fury.

Don't get me wrong, the US is still ahead in many ways, because it is the home of boxing and has the history.
Still, it's like a cycle where black fans have seen it all before, so they're less inclined to follow the sport today compared to how they used to in the past. Mexican support is at it's height today (or over the past 10 yrs).
that only leaves a subgroup from the blacks, like a show of defiance. they are more hardcore in the sense that they truely bring their racism and xenophobia into it. that's the only time they come to life.
That’s a nice essay. I’m black I like basketball it’s more accessible and i have a better chance at profiting from it. Easy. No need for xenophobia, boxing isn’t as popular not because we don’t love ourselves but we dominate other sports too.

Moreover, wtf are you talking about? It seems like youre talking out of your bum. Boxing is less accessible than sports that have teams in your city. I live in Chicago, there hasn’t been an a-side boxer here in decades. So do i choose to drive to St. Louis or Cincy to see fights, or fly to Vegas? Or do i go to the bulls that play every Tuesday and Thursday 10 minutes from home. It’s just inaccessible which is why fandom has decreased

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Old 12-22-2019, 11:41 PM #27
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His close fights with GGG and Canelo show he's on a high level but I think he needs more coverage. Staying busy and continuing to win will help.
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:42 PM #28
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Andre Ward was squeaky clean religious guy with family value the conservatives would love too and an olympic pedigree and undefeated and the concensus p4p #1 but still didn't cross over

That's not what works in this country
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:47 PM #29
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I like Jacobs, good fighter. Comes across well.

His 3 losses have only came to real top quality fighters. I think he's willing to face anyone, and faced his rivals at 160.
Thing about Jacobs though he never really lived up to his hype never became the man in his division and never looked like he would after he came back
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Old 12-22-2019, 11:53 PM #30
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He just doesn’t have that bad boy or confrontational attitude which Americans can point to
Hes not very marketable
Yeah he does have a great story , surviving cancer , but that’s where it stops
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