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  • Originally posted by JustinFloyd View Post
    when you do it now at 154, of course no! how about when floyd is just 130lb and Roy on 154 and they fight at 154?

    We are talking prime jones and prime Floyd not old fat jones and prime floyd! lol! Anyway, thats how floyd and floydiots like... old fat or small newbie fighter to qualify to be his opponents! lol
    Exactly, sad I must say.

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    • Originally posted by JustinFloyd View Post
      lol! even dela hoya cherry pick Pac just to avoid Margacheato! lol! Guerrero beating bum ped berto and he is the best in WW? ATTENTION! the most stupid poster is around! lol
      who said guerrero was the best in the division?i said guerrero has better wins than margarito did before fighting cotto and he does. what did margarito do or beat that made him the best ww?

      margarito is a fighter that should thank floyd if floyd wouold have ever fought him he would had never become this mythical great fighter that some of you make him out to be

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      • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        who said guerrero was the best in the division?i said guerrero has better wins than margarito did before fighting cotto and he does. what did margarito do or beat that made him the best ww?

        margarito is a fighter that should thank floyd if floyd wouold have ever fought him he would had never become this mythical great fighter that some of you make him out to be
        Aydin has never been a true top 10 at welter, Marg beat a lot of guys rated higher (and much better than Aydin). Berto was also unranked, coming off a PED suspension. Before that he lost to Ortiz, who's no better than Cintron and never beat anyone other than Berto.

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        • Some actually simplified the whole question by saying,"Floyd has a big mouth and he should back it up"....

          Mouth Does Not Make You Great or assigns who you should or not fight. I dont care how much Malinaggi or Hamed used to talk....I dont want to see them fight particular fighters cuz of it....or a quiet, humble fighter any less.

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          • Originally posted by IdNod4u2 View Post
            Some actually simplified the whole question by saying,"Floyd has a big mouth and he should back it up"....

            Mouth Does Not Make You Great or assigns who you should or not fight. I dont care how much Malinaggi or Hamed used to talk....I dont want to see them fight particular fighters cuz of it....or a quiet, humble fighter any less.
            His #1 status at 154 should mean he's ready for the likes of Trout and Martinez at 154, not to mention extremely unproven Canelo

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            • Originally posted by IdNod4u2 View Post
              Example:

              Floyd can fight Canelo, Martinez, Trout etc... but he couldnt or should not have fought Marquez, Clottey or Ortiz.

              at the same time Pac can fight Margarito, Clottey(even thought they are "bigger") and whoever he seems to have an advantage over and get huge credit for the wins.

              ( you say well because of size.) But Floyd cAN FIGHT pAC....

              But if we say Pac should fight Canelo, Martinez, Trout.....This is absurd and out of the question?

              On the same note Cotto can fight all those guys too and its no problem( a fighter Pac fought and beat).

              For me the answer is...Whether you hate Floyd or love him your giving him respect because inside you know he is great or greater than Manny.

              Opinions?
              Another example, a few months back there was an interview with Roach saying Guerrero would be a good match with Pacquiao. A lot of Pacquiao fans here were agreeing with him BUT now that Floyd-Guerrero is on the cusp of being made it is a cherry pick.

              Pac fans are unintentionally admitting that Floyd is the greater fighter by doing this. Floyd has to fight a 160 lb Sergio Martinez to not be considered cherry picking but Guerrero is okay for Pacquiao?

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              • *yawns* .....

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                • Originally posted by Biolink View Post
                  Thus showing the talent disparity when Floyd would be favored over everyone whereas Pacquiao would only be favored over "most"(Which ain't bad).

                  I agree. Floyd seemingly has more talent, which is why he doesn't get the credit for beating guys nobody expects to have a chance.

                  Originally posted by tredh View Post
                  HAHAHAHA this is such a dumbass train of thought. Who really between 140-154 would be favored to beat PBF? Who really is PBF supposed to lose to?
                  Floyd has had one major opportunity to prove himself against a fighter people thought had a chance to win and he showed no desire to make the fight. If him and his fans don't feel he receives the credit he deserves they only have OST to blame.

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                  • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                    Another example, a few months back there was an interview with Roach saying Guerrero would be a good match with Pacquiao. A lot of Pacquiao fans here were agreeing with him BUT now that Floyd-Guerrero is on the cusp of being made it is a cherry pick.

                    Pac fans are unintentionally admitting that Floyd is the greater fighter by doing this. Floyd has to fight a 160 lb Sergio Martinez to not be considered cherry picking but Guerrero is okay for Pacquiao?
                    Originally posted by Biolink View Post
                    Thus showing the talent disparity when Floyd would be favored over everyone whereas Pacquiao would only be favored over "most"(Which ain't bad).
                    Guerrero is a good match up for Pac as Pac has beaten just about everybody, tought fights back to back to back. Guerrero would be good for Pac.

                    He isnt that special for Floyd as Floyid needs to up his game a bit for not doing enough. Floyd cant sit on his laurels and then just come back for a Guerrero when Floyd has so much catching up to do.

                    Pac fights often so isnt expected to burn the candle at both ends, but he does anyway, fighting Margarito 18lbs heavier than Pac, Jmm, Bradley and then JMM again. That is a punishing scedule in a short space of time.And who was Pac not favoured against? ? He is favourite all the time, and probably only not against Sergio, but yes people expected Pac to fight Sergio soon after Pac destroyed margarito.

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                    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                      Guerrero is a good match up for Pac as Pac has beaten just about everybody, tought fights back to back to back. Guerrero would be good for Pac.

                      He isnt that special for Floyd as Floyid needs to up his game a bit for not doing enough. Floyd cant sit on his laurels and then just come back for a Guerrero when Floyd has so much catching up to do.

                      Pac fights often so isnt expected to burn the candle at both ends, but he does anyway, fighting Margarito 18lbs heavier than Pac, Jmm, Bradley and then JMM again. That is a punishing scedule in a short space of time.And who was Pac not favoured against? ? He is favourite all the time, and probably only not against Sergio, but yes people expected Pac to fight Sergio soon after Pac destroyed margarito.
                      Woah.....did someone just use logic, and perspective???

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