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How could Wilder & Joshua start boxing at age of 20 & be the Best HW's in the World?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Boksfan View Post
    That's US, what's the explanation world wide?
    international HW have mostly been ass historically. look at the top 50 hw of all time. almost all of them come from where?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by New England View Post
      international HW have mostly been ass historically. look at the top 50 hw of all time. almost all of them come from where?
      Germany, Ukraine and England?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        are you a refugee?
        My grandad was during the first world war

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        • #34
          I don't see any point to the poll. Starting boxing at 18 to 20 years old is plenty young enough for a boxer to reach his potential while he is still in his prime .Aj is in his late 20s so he has been a boxer for 10 years or so. Wilder is in his early 30s so he has been a boxer for 13 or more years. That's enough time for a determine boxer to reach any potential he has. Hopkins was in prison and didn't turn pro until age 30 when he got out of prison and look at his accomplishments. If AJ and Wilder had started boxing when they were 12 years old they would probably be better but not that much better. Boxing isn't rocket science and it doesn't take 20 years to learn.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
            Putting it out there, Ali wouldnt be that skilled if he boxed exactly how he boxed at HW against LWs.

            Better than maybe all other HWs? Sure. But he wasnt that skilled in comparison to greats in lower classes.
            I disagree. If he was a natural welter, he would be just like sugar Ray Leonard

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
              I disagree. If he was a natural welter, he would be just like sugar Ray Leonard
              SRL's inside fighting and general technique are leagues ahead of Ali.

              Ali couldnt throw a proper uppercut to save his life.

              Ali was hampered by the small fact that he was 200lbs+

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
                Muhammad Ali
                Don't think so

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                  Why do Wilder fans brag about his late start and the fact he got Olympic Bronze yet they don't acknowledge Joshua's almost equally late start and Olympic Gold and the fact he won a title in far less fights, beat a ranked opponent in less fights, unified a title in far less fights and defeated an elite opponent in far less fights?
                  Becuase Wilder lacks boxing skills and they are trying to make excuses for that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Luilun View Post
                    Don't think so
                    If both were natural Middleweights who would win?

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                    • #40
                      Foreman also started late.

                      Ali was 12 when they stole his bike, was champion 9 years later.

                      Tyson was 13 and he was champion at 20.

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