Comments Thread For: Black Hitler - Boxing And The Anti-PBC Effect

[Motorcity Cobra]

nothing in those emails indicated that they intended to actually FABRICATE opposition material, just that they would leak test results if they could get them, and that they wanted to find media members that were sympathetic to their position on Haymons practices, especially as it pertained to California, and whether or not he was running afoul of the rules and regulations there. (not an uncommon position)

But if your point is that Oscar might have a grudge against the guy that tried to steal his company, then great. What a shock. Who would think that someone might have a grudge against the man that corrupted his CEO, tried to buy him out, and when that failed tried to destroy his company. I cant imagine anyone carrying a grudge over something so minor.....lol

Steal his company for $100 mil? They were overpaying. Only 3 fighters were turning a profit, Canelo, Khan, and Garcia and he paid $15 mil to get his fighters released. As we saw in the Paul Gift story, Golden Boy has never come close to making that much money even when they had Floyd and Canelo

[TexasCowBoy]

A huge article blaming "boxings powers" and "anti haymon" media for pbc and haymons downfall.

Haymon tried to put different fighters, on different channels, at different times, with different promoters, at different venues, and he he wonders why no one is watching.

This article is a ridiculous weak attempt to spin blame on others for showtimes and haymons recent ratings failure.

Haymon and Showtime have done nothing to build their brands or the brands of their fighters, that's why no one is tuning in.

Great Post and may I add ill gotten gains have no value and it reflects by the way PBC handled their ill gotten gains by over protecting their gains instead of churning their roster by pitting their top fighters against each other....deontayduckus wilderquackus reputation and brand sucks joshua is ready to take on Klits but deontayduckus is still protected (pbc) chickenson need I say more (pbc) the whole lot at jr middleweight holding hands and forming a brotherhood (pbc) welterweight another brotherhood except for the late thurman vs garcia fight (pbc) at featherweight the whole lot of PBC brotherhood.....Protecting Boxing Cowards matchups suck....nobody wants anything free if it sucks and in this world nothing is free

[Motorcity Cobra]

Except that Iole leaves out a ton of details and reduces it to just a Haymon ban when it was not just about Haymon and it was about more than just Mayweather leaving.

I read your article. I posted that solely because Iole stated outright that HBO banned Haymon.

2015 When Herschman retired. Dan likes to blow with the wind. Iole is consistent

Hershman also made the controversial decision to banish all the fighters involved with manager/adviser Al Haymon from the network because of Haymon's unwillingness to set up tough matches for his fighters.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...es-resignation

[Cinci Champ]

So basically the fact that a journalist associated with GBP called Haymon "Black Hitler" negates what are valid grievances with Haymon's practices? Get real.

Apparently the journalist is a despicable criminal and Haymon is a saint

someone didnt make it through the whole article

[Cinci Champ]

The important point is that we now have definitive proof, in writing, that Golden Boy and Ring Magazine were conspiring to create and spread anti-Haymon propaganda and strategizing on how to get that propaganda published here on boxingscene.

those who honestly fell for it in the first place were naive. u got boxing writers actively working their asses off to spin a negative view of pbc and people fall right in line like sheep not realizing most are under direct pay from gbp in multiple ways and they try to hide it as just comedy.

honestly some of u guys are beyond blind for that

[Scipio2009]

There were many meaningful fights that should have been made at PBC and SHO where Haymon had the fighters, resources and complete control of the situation. Many of those fights are now meaningless. This anti-PBC thing didn't just come out in a vacuum.

Showtime/PBC delivered more fights that fight fans actually wanted to see than HBO (and have basically been kicking HBO's ass since Floyd made the move over in 2012), yet you've yet to see a single full-on article calling out HBO for that.

People have gone out of their way, to cook up every possible reason to blame something other than HBO.

to try and rationalize the anti-PBC media consensus is a bit rich.

[Motorcity Cobra]

But who did he make it a good company for?

Oscar? Schaefer? Haymon?

Made it good for everyone involved. Those were Golden Boy's most profitable years. Haymon and his fighters weren't the only ones to leave. Investors left too. Nobody is going to trust their investments to a crackhead. Period point blank

[Motorcity Cobra]

So it was good for GBP to not have fighters signed?

This is the reason Haymon chose not to have his fighters sign. If you were a manager would you have your fighters sign this deal? It is the managers job to look out for the best interest of their clients.

Seems Haymon's story will be he doesn't like GB's long-term contracts: GB can cancel, 1 yr first refusal, possible 2yr extensions & this: pic.twitter.com/mhGIuwKZHu

— Paul Gift (@MMAanalytics) November 1, 2016

[Motorcity Cobra]

those who honestly fell for it in the first place were naive. u got boxing writers actively working their asses off to spin a negative view of pbc and people fall right in line like sheep not realizing most are under direct pay from gbp in multiple ways and they try to hide it as just comedy.

honestly some of u guys are beyond blind for that

There are more media member in cahoots with Golden Boy. Why do you think nobody is even bothering to report on it? They're afraid their emails will be released.

[Scipio2009]

But who did he make it a good company for?

Oscar? Schaefer? Haymon?

Golden Boy was always Oscar's company; even at his most diluted, Oscar still owned something like 65% of the company.

With Oscar being an absent-minded owner, Schaefer was able to take Oscar's 65% and grow it into the dominant boxing promotional company on the planet.

The original plan for PBC was to basically have near the entire operation run thru Golden Boy Promotions.

Imagine the type of money that would've rolled back to Oscar De La Hoya had he simply gone along with the plan.