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Old 09-21-2018, 01:36 PM #31
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Haha this thread is hilarious, full of intricacies. But if you lose youre lineal status. A new lineage has to be started with 1 vs 2. Failed drug dudes don't get ranked so he wasn't ranked. Golovkin vs Canelo was 1 vs unranked, not a new lineage, lol.
tell that to all the ranking sites man..they all have him as lineal

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Old 09-21-2018, 01:43 PM #32
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:46 PM #33
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tell that to all the ranking sites man..they all have him as lineal

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Why you trying to side with this guy man? 114-114 and the Golovkin/Canelo are the worst in the sport. All tied to the same guy, at those stakes. Does it really have to take a PBC guy to get robbed for us all to unite against the ****ers? Because it will happen, its not about race, its money, and they'll do it. You want to see Spence or Charlos rise halted by the same ****?
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:53 PM #34
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Sure, they said he wasn't on their list of priorioties. Why would he be when Golovkin had fights like the Canelo fight and possibly Saunders or Murata were possibilities? There's a good case that he ducked Derevyanchenko - though the circumstances were unusual, but the fact remains that you can't say that he ducked a fight that had not yet had a chance to happen... you can speculate that he might have 'ducked' that fight if it had in fact been ordered, but to say he actually ducked it before there was a chance for it to happen is simply false.
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:54 PM #35
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Why you trying to side with this guy man? 114-114 and the Golovkin/Canelo are the worst in the sport. All tied to the same guy, at those stakes. Does it really have to take a PBC guy to get robbed for us all to unite against the ****ers? Because it will happen, its not about race, its money, and they'll do it. You want to see Spence or Charlos rise halted by the same ****?

Canelo clearly won.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:01 PM #36
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Yea it really looks good, too bad so many people thought he lost so many of his significant fights. And how is he 2 time lineal champ at mw? Wasn't he since he won it? He wouldn't have needed to win the wbc twice if he didn't vacate it to avoid a fight either...well maybe he would have if he lost to ggg had they fought earlier. Good resume and accomplishments on paper tho, and more significant than any of that, he elevated himself to be the biggest draw/star in the sport.

Well, no one sane thinks he lost *many* of his significant fights.

Itd be one. Lara OR GGG but not both. Cant have Lara winning and Canelo losing in GGG 1.

And if were fair, Lara spent HUGE portions of the fight being completely inactive and when youre on the back foot, no one likes that. There were times hed go like a literal near minute just avoiding engagement and not throwing a single punch.

I dont blame the judges. I blame lara.

And if anyone though Cotto or Trout won....yikes. Bless their heart
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:05 PM #37
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Canelo clearly won.
Clearly 114-114, clearly beat Vazquez, Lara, his whole career is riddled with corruption. You love the sport or you **** off the old system. Mayweather won his fights, despite the calls of unfair advantages. But this is a whole different level. Its what happens when moneys pouring out of the sport, and you have to put it on one bankable asset
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:14 PM #38
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Well, no one sane thinks he lost *many* of his significant fights.

Itd be one. Lara OR GGG but not both. Cant have Lara winning and Canelo losing in GGG 1.

And if were fair, Lara spent HUGE portions of the fight being completely inactive and when youre on the back foot, no one likes that. There were times hed go like a literal near minute just avoiding engagement and not throwing a single punch.

I dont blame the judges. I blame lara.

And if anyone though Cotto or Trout won....yikes. Bless their heart
I said many people...as in different people thinking he lost different fights. I thought he won the lara fight, but it was really a pitiful display by both guys. I thought he lost both ggg fights, with the 2nd being close. canelo is similar to ggg in how he looks like a world beater against lesser competition, but barely gets by his top opposition.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:16 PM #39
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Gotta give this guy his due..He is a 2 division champion has won

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Canelo vs GGG = GIFT (2 times)
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Canelo vs Chavez = Chavez? LOL!!!

Dude is overated, well matched and very protected by the industry.

Can't and will not support.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:19 PM #40
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transitional boxing dropped him
They stripped him of the TBRB title after not fighting at middleweight for one year, but no one entity has the authority to control the lineal title and plenty of lineal champions have gone longer than a year without defending their title. Canelo took two fights out of the division, so ended up going 16 months between lineal defenses. It's not a legitimate reason to strip him of the lineal title since some champions have gone years between defenses.
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