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Old 11-21-2018, 12:29 PM #71
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If Wilder wins impressively, his star power increases tremendously. He'll be back on Showtime or Fox and then the Ortiz rematch is probably PPV as well. That could do upwards of over 500K. It doesn't take much to outgross UK revenue in the US. 500K PPV in the US = 1.5m in the UK. But Wilder has to prove it first.
If he can do 500k with Ortiz then we can definitely say he has arrive. I think this is the new direction that his are going to take, his name has been propelled over the last 6 months and we all know why. Finally he doesn’t need to beg for the Joshua fight. And that’s great for him, I still don’t know how he can fight anyone else yet with the WBC mandatory shot owed to Breazeale not sorted out yet.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:38 PM #72
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Let me start putting a few coins away now, this ppv is a must buy.
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If he can do 500k with Ortiz then we can definitely say he has arrive. I think this is the new direction that his are going to take, his name has been propelled over the last 6 months and we all know why. Finally he doesn’t need to beg for the Joshua fight. And that’s great for him, I still don’t know how he can fight anyone else yet with the WBC mandatory shot owed to Breazeale not sorted out yet.
The WBC has already come out and said they will step aside and delay the mandatory if Wilder/Joshua takes place next. So, assuming Wilder beats Fury, he will be fighting Breazeale next, unless he fights Joshua for the undisputed HW championship bout.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:46 PM #74
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The WBC has already come out and said they will step aside and delay the mandatory if Wilder/Joshua takes place next. So, assuming Wilder beats Fury, he will be fighting Breazeale next, unless he fights Joshua for the undisputed HW championship bout.
Yeah I know the WBC would allow undisputed fights, but we don't know how everything is going to play out after December 1st, does Fury have a rematch if he loses? Would he be allowed to activate that right away? Breazeale mandatory called if no agreement between Wilder and Joshua again? I mean would the WBC allow Ortiz to fight Wilder first before a Fury rematch or Breazeale? We shall know more in december.
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If he can do 500k with Ortiz then we can definitely say he has arrive. I think this is the new direction that his are going to take, his name has been propelled over the last 6 months and we all know why. Finally he doesn’t need to beg for the Joshua fight. And that’s great for him, I still don’t know how he can fight anyone else yet with the WBC mandatory shot owed to Breazeale not sorted out yet.
Agreed. If he beats Fury, I think he fights Breazeale and then Ortiz. As Hearn said, there was a short window to make the Joshua fight. I think at this point Team Wilder doesn’t care, for lack of a better term. We’ll see what happens.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but the undercard is much stronger than the typical PPV undercard in the US.

Showtime is giving Adonis Stevenson and Julio Cesar Chavez for free as a lead up to the PPV, and the PPV has Jarrett Hurd and Luis Ortiz.

Hurd is a unified champion that is a main event PBC fighter now and Ortiz is typically a PBC co-feature. Adonis Stevenson, Julio Cesar Chavez, Jarrett Hurd and Luis Ortiz is a lot of star power that night leading to the main event.
the undercard is complete crap.
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Lol that's the equivalent of what you pay for 5 months of both DAZN and Espn+.

PBC and Showtime need to come to the realization that most people will no pay for a PPV fight( unless it's Spence/Crawford or Wilder/Joshua). Anything else, they'll find a stream online or wait till it's uploaded.
Your paying a one time fee for a big heavyweight fight people want to see. I rather pay for that than pay for 5 months of garbage fights on ESPN+ and DAZN. There's a reason why I cancelled both DAZN and ESPN+.
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Luckily we don't have to guess...

I don't think he avoids the revenue question, he's addressed it in several interviews. My point is that Fury is as high profile of an opponent as you can get outside Joshua, and Joshua himself has done those types of numbers with Parker.

Anyway let's see what it does first.

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Here’s the full list of Pay TV figures:

(only including Sky Sports and Primetime (excluding Ali v Henry)

21 May 1966: Muhammad Ali vs. Henry Cooper II – 40,000
16 March 1996: Frank Bruno vs. Mike Tyson II – 600,000
8 February 1997: Naseem Hamed vs. Tom Johnson – 650,000
28 June 1997: Evander Holyfield vs. Mike Tyson II – 550,000
13 March 1999: Evander Holyfield vs. Lennox Lewis – 400,000
29 January 2000: Mike Tyson vs. Julius Francis – 500,000
8 June 2002: Lennox Lewis vs. Mike Tyson – 750,000
8 December 2007: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Ricky Hatton – 1,150,000
18 July 2009: Amir Khan vs. Andreas Kotelnik – 100,000
7 November 2009: Nikolai Valuev vs. David Haye – 469,000
3 April 2010: David Haye vs. John Ruiz – 177,000
24 April 2010: Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler – 50,000
18 September 2010: Kell Brook vs. Michael Jennings – 15,000
13 November 2010: David Haye vs. Audley Harrison – 223,000
11 December 2010: Amir Khan vs. Marcos Maidana – 164,000
16 April 2011: Amir Khan vs. Paul McCloskey – 200,000
21 May 2011: George Groves vs. James DeGale – 43,000
2 July 2011: Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye – 1,143,000
25 May 2013: Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler II – 32,000
23 November 2013: Carl Froch vs. George Groves – 47,000
31 May 2014: Carl Froch vs. George Groves II – 355,000
30 May 2015: Kell Brook vs. Frankie Gavin – 139,000
2 May 2015: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao – 876,000
28 November 2015: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Tyson Fury – 545,000
12 December 2015: Anthony Joshua vs. Dillian Whyte – 420,000
27 February 2016: Carl Frampton vs. Scott Quigg – 304,000
9 April 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Charles Martin – 500,000
25 June 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Dominic Breazeale – 512,000
10 September 2016: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook – 500,000
10 December 2016: Anthony Joshua vs. Éric Molina – 450,000
4 March 2017: David Haye vs. Tony Bellew – 890,000
29 April 2017: Anthony Joshua vs. Wladimir Klitschko – 1,532,000
27 May 2017: Kell Brook vs. Errol Spence Jr. – 275,000
26 August 2017: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor – 874,000
28 October 2017 – Anthony Joshua vs. Carlos Takam – 887,000
31 March 2018: Anthony Joshua vs. Joseph Parker – 1,457,000
5 May 2018: David Haye vs. Tony Bellew II – 775,000
28 July 2018: Dillian Whyte vs. Joseph Parker – 474,000

I've seen these numbers before but are they really believable. Especially when SKY themselves have said that May/Mac broke PPV records and outdid the previous record of AJ/Wlad. Yet this list has them only selling 874k? It's a list with numbers but unfortunately, SKY doesn't officially release their PPV numbers.
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People pay for what they wanna see. If people want to pay $75 to have a fight night party and watch Wilder/Fury, they'll pay it. Just like there's people who are willing to pay $10 a month for garbage fights on DAZN. To each their own. I'll be in Seattle on a lil get weekend get away so I hope to catch it at a bar and I'll pay a cover if I have to.
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I've seen these numbers before but are they really believable. Especially when SKY themselves have said that May/Mac broke PPV records and outdid the previous record of AJ/Wlad. Yet this list has them only selling 874k? It's a list with numbers but unfortunately, SKY doesn't officially release their PPV numbers.
Incorrect, you can always find them on BARB after the event. The Mayweather-mcgregor numbers were false reports just like the 6.5 million report for US buys, there was never a source on it apart from. Speculation by Dana White

These numbers I think are accurate and a lot of them have been confirmed by reputable news sources.
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