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  • #51
    Originally posted by Froch_uppercut View Post
    1. Asking AJ to sign a $50m 'offer' and openly saying that you have to sign without knowing terms and conditions, location, judges etc
    This is a blatant lie. There was nothing to sign, because there was never a contract, because AJ turned down the money offer. AJ & Hearn have both themselves admitted the money was real, the fight would be in the US, but they preferred taking less money to fight in the UK. Stop rewriting history.


    2. Hearn flew to New York and Wilder's team would not even meet with him. Fact, plain and simple.
    Hearn flew to NY on unrelated business and Wilder's team refused to meet because Hearn refused to confirm whether 50 million was acceptable. You don't sit down to discuss minor details without an understanding on the biggest detail. This is standard operating procedure in boxing. You're allowing Hearn to brainwash you. The fact that Hearn turned down the 50 million and wants the fight to generate less money in the UK shows Wilder's team was correct in refusing to sit down as they would have been wasting their time discussing an offer Hearn was never going to accept.


    3. Joshua is the A side. More belts, more draw. He decides where he wants it. Fact.
    That's fine. Wilder already agreed to fight in the UK. Which proves Wilder wants the fight more because normally nobody would accept the fight for so much less money than the fight is worth. What AJ is doing by refusing to fight for 50 million and insist on fighting in a location that generates so much less revenue is practically unheard of. There has never been a superfight before where the A-side was so adamant about refusing to maximize the revenue.


    4. They sent an offer to Wilder, properly formatted and executed. Received Monday. Wilder is 'mulling it over'. This came out today via a respected US newspaper, link below.
    Wilder choosing to accept a low ball offer would be further proof of who wants the fight more. So you're actually countering your own argument.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
      The offer wasn’t huge. Nice try doe. 6.7 million in 3 fights while Hearn will make close to 10-15 million dollars. He turned it down because it was a silly offer. Same reason no big fighter has signed with him.
      I'm not disagreeing with you, genius.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Illmatic94 View Post
        You can't call a guy a bum with a trash resume and then say that same guy is the biggest career fight. makes no sense. That camp is obviously threatened by Wilder. a "bum" shouldn't worry nobody.

        You think if Breazeale was the one with the WBC belt that AJ and Hearn would be behaving this way? they will travel to America to become undisputed in that scenario.

        But because the man with the belt can put the juiced up bodybuilder in a coma with one punch they're scrambling for excuses.

        Wilder doesnt need to have perfect technique or footwork you don't get points off technique. You could throw a textbook jab but if it misses who cares.
        Wilder should just sign the contract then. It sounds like he's received a legitimate contract and in the past he's said he'd take any offer.

        I don't think Hearn, Wilder or anyone in that camp thinks he's a bum so I don't think what a few fans say will factor into shortening his camp from his usual 3 months to 2 months. On the flip side if Joshua is such a horrible fighter and heartless bum then why turn down $12.5m when he took far less for every other fight?

        Wilder's poor technique and low skill level, poor ring IQ and terrible footwork will be his downfall any fight now. Probably with Joshua, possibly vs. a bum. He has a punchers chance to beat anyone but an average fighters chance to lose to almost anyone. He's just not a very good fighter.

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        • #54
          Donkey Wilder ducking because the beating he got from ancient Ortiz nearly ended his bum killer career

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          • #55
            Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
            You have me confused with your father. He had to be a woman to raise a cheerleading groupie like you. Hearn says jump and you say how high. No1 likes you here maybe you should go away.
            Whatever you were trying to say it wasn't funny.

            Try again.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              The negotiating for weeks began with that offer you referred to. Try again.
              No they gave an offer, and then it was declined. They talked and gave another offer.

              Between the two offers is what you call negotiation.

              Something Wilder and his "24hour you must agree and we can't meet" team doesn't know anything about.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                I'm not disagreeing with you, genius.
                I’m not disagreeing with you either lol thenice try was directed at Hearn lol

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                  Wilder should just sign the contract then. It sounds like he's received a legitimate contract and in the past he's said he'd take any offer.

                  I don't think Hearn, Wilder or anyone in that camp thinks he's a bum so I don't think what a few fans say will factor into shortening his camp from his usual 3 months to 2 months. On the flip side if Joshua is such a horrible fighter and heartless bum then why turn down $12.5m when he took far less for every other fight?

                  Wilder's poor technique and low skill level, poor ring IQ and terrible footwork will be his downfall any fight now. Probably with Joshua, possibly vs. a bum. He has a punchers chance to beat anyone but an average fighters chance to lose to almost anyone. He's just not a very good fighter.
                  Same reason Manny made far less in his previous fights but still turned down 40 million from Pacquio. Your logic doesn’t make sense. Why would he take a small percentage of an 100milliom dollar figh just because he didn’t make that much in his previous fights. By your logic AJ should have accepted the 50 million because he never made that much before lol kindergarten logic. AJ slow robotic footwork/hand movement, poor ring IQ, Average accuracy, questionable stamina or Vada/ukad will be his downfall any fight now. Why turn down 12.5 million? Because the fight will make 100million DUH hence the 50million dollar offer. AJ treating this like life or death situation. He wants no face offs, 4 month training camp lol what’s next? He’ll probably ask Wilder to fight with one hand.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                    Whatever you were trying to say it wasn't funny.

                    Try again.
                    The truth is not meant to be funny, groupie.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                      Lmao they know he’s scared their hanging on by a thread now. They’re going to ask him to fight with one hand next
                      I can’t seriously debate someone who doesn’t know they’re from their.

                      This is far too easy.

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