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Old 09-21-2017, 02:58 PM #151
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styles make fights. floyd is a greater fighter than williams, a limited fighter who wasn't hard to hit and who lost to worse fighters than floyd for sure.


that said, again, styles make fights. activity and 6'2" of southpaw with a good chin was a style that floyd avoided, and for good reason. i'd probably shade floyd, but not by a lot. that's the kind of fighter floyd avoided or whom his team avoided. they avoided margarito, too.

williams would be six inches taller than floyd, probably have 10+ lbs on him in the ring on fight night. but again, williams was not hard to hit and would probably eat punches all night without floyd having to work that hard to do it.

it would come down to whether or not floyd could win the rounds, and i think that he would. but floyd was moved in a manner to maximize long term profitability, and a big, hard working southpaw with an 80 inch reach was not the kind of fight haymon would have had him take unless the money was huge. and it never was a huge fight, or worth that kind of risk and deterioration.


if you break your hand you can still beat victor ortiz, robert guerrero, etc. you can tie those guys up if you need to. but you'll be hard pressed to impress judges when you throw less against a huge southpaw who throws 90 punches a round, and who is basically too tall for you to clinch.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:17 PM #152
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So don't address any points made and pivot to the "he didn't fight..." argument where you hold Floyd accountable because Manny , ODH, Shane and others wouldn't fight him. Damn, you are desperate to disparage Floyd's career anyway you can.

Yeah, when you are the a side you get things done your way. Same as Leonard, same as ODH. stop crying that the guys you like never occupied that spot. FYI, Ring size is standard in Vegas idiot so at least know what the fuck you are talking about.

When he was high risk, low reward, they were no where to be found. when they saw a big payday, they all came running.

If he fought and beat these guys, bitches like you would find some way to denigrate them as you do everyone of Floyd's wins. Its the usual pattern, say fighter x will beat Floyd, they fight, Floyd wins, and you [email protected] get upset and then down the win.

Like I said if we answer this question using the Pwill that actually existed, he loses to Floyd. If we go with whatever elevated, enhanced fight night created player version of PWill you are using for purposes of this discussion, he still loses.

its real simple family...had he fought these guys in their prime, the ones that keep coming up over and over again...then some of us would be comfortable saying floyd would smoke the sugar rays, the hearns, the guys he ducked, er i mean he missed while he was on vacation... but he didn't, so we not...
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:21 PM #153
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styles make fights. floyd is a greater fighter than williams, a limited fighter who wasn't hard to hit and who lost to worse fighters than floyd for sure.


that said, again, styles make fights. activity and 6'2" of southpaw with a good chin was a style that floyd avoided, and for good reason. i'd probably shade floyd, but not by a lot. that's the kind of fighter floyd avoided or whom his team avoided. they avoided margarito, too.

williams would be six inches taller than floyd, probably have 10+ lbs on him in the ring on fight night. but again, williams was not hard to hit and would probably eat punches all night without floyd having to work that hard to do it.

it would come down to whether or not floyd could win the rounds, and i think that he would. but floyd was moved in a manner to maximize long term profitability, and a big, hard working southpaw with an 80 inch reach was not the kind of fight haymon would have had him take unless the money was huge. and it never was a huge fight, or worth that kind of risk and deterioration.


if you break your hand you can still beat victor ortiz, robert guerrero, etc. you can tie those guys up if you need to. but you'll be hard pressed to impress judges when you throw less against a huge southpaw who throws 90 punches a round, and who is basically too tall for you to clinch.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:24 PM #154
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So don't address any points made and pivot to the "he didn't fight..." argument where you hold Floyd accountable because Manny , ODH, Shane and others wouldn't fight him. Damn, you are desperate to disparage Floyd's career anyway you can.

Yeah, when you are the a side you get things done your way. Same as Leonard, same as ODH. stop crying that the guys you like never occupied that spot. FYI, Ring size is standard in Vegas idiot so at least know what the fuck you are talking about.

When he was high risk, low reward, they were no where to be found. when they saw a big payday, they all came running.

If he fought and beat these guys, bitches like you would find some way to denigrate them as you do everyone of Floyd's wins. Its the usual pattern, say fighter x will beat Floyd, they fight, Floyd wins, and you [email protected] get upset and then down the win.

Like I said if we answer this question using the Pwill that actually existed, he loses to Floyd. If we go with whatever elevated, enhanced fight night created player version of PWill you are using for purposes of this discussion, he still loses.

why i keep thinking of that whitney houston record...i get so emoootional babay, everytime i think of youuuuu...lol
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:29 PM #155
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its real simple family...had he fought these guys in their prime, the ones that keep coming up over and over again...then some of us would be comfortable saying floyd would smoke the sugar rays, the hearns, the guys he ducked, er i mean he missed while he was on vacation... but he didn't, so we not...
LMFAO! at coming up again and again. You and others keep bringing them up because you guys know fantasy fights are the only ones Floyd loses. Sorry but you don't get credit for being petty little hoes.

You guys play retarded but you know deep down Floyd would beat PWill even with those attributes because you saw men inferior to Floyd defeat him. But hey, we know guys like you would shoot your mother rather than give Floyd credit or acknowledge he is better than someone.

So what if he might lose to Leonard or Hearns. They were retired before Floyd's era began. The HOF guys that were fighting during Floyd's era-ODH, Shane, Manny, Kosta, Hamed, cotto-all waited to fight him until they could get a huge payday.

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why i keep thinking of that whitney houston record...i get so emoootional babay, everytime i think of youuuuu...lol
Deflect from the post however you can because you can't refute it. Keep on dreamin about someone beating Floyd. If that helps you sleep, great.
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He's an ATG, I don't discredit that. I discredit the hype that his groupies say about him. I dislike groupies of all boxers, not just Floyd's.

Not an armchair but if you think that, then go ahead.
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P Willy was too slow for Floyd. Way too slow.
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facts.....he does have a prime ortiz, and chop chop corley though...
Ortiz had a prime?
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LMFAO! at coming up again and again. You and others keep bringing them up because you guys know fantasy fights are the only ones Floyd loses. Sorry but you don't get credit for being petty little hoes.

You guys play retarded but you know deep down Floyd would beat PWill even with those attributes because you saw men inferior to Floyd defeat him. But hey, we know guys like you would shoot your mother rather than give Floyd credit or acknowledge he is better than someone.

So what if he might lose to Leonard or Hearns. They were retired before Floyd's era began. The HOF guys that were fighting during Floyd's era-ODH, Shane, Manny, Kosta, Hamed, cotto-all waited to fight him until they could get a huge payday.

djtmal's fantasy island-the place you go if you want to see Floyd lose a fight.
wrong again...i don't bring these things up...i just give my take on the situation, and this isn't just any old fantasy fight...this is a fight that actually could have taken place because the fighter in question was actually fighting in floyd's era, in floyd's division.., and would have been potentially next had floyd not taken a vaca after ricky hatton...hard to get around all of that...

and who said williams would beat floyd...only thing anyone with any sense said here is it ain't that cut and dry, because your boy would be potentially in there with a guy whose style would be a nightmare for him and could possibly have his number....who has a significant height/reach advantage, and is a natural ww who was pretty durable...we've seen guys like jones and mosley take on similar style nightmares in tarver and forrest, and didn't come out on top...you think that wasn't on the mayweather camp's minds in matching your boy up properly?

only an excuse making, caption sav-a-floyd type such as yourself would even make an attempt at dismissing all of that
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