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  • #11
    Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
    If we base solely on quality, yes Thurman no doubt. But if we quantify it, Pac has more fights to add up. Pac also has the Bradley win, a top 5 WW. That alone can be compared to either Garcia and Porter.

    To me,

    Garcia is slightly above Bradley because of Garcia's '0'
    Porter over Horn
    Broner equivalent to Josesito

    but then, there are still

    Vargas - a top 10 WW, arguably top 5 when Pac fought him
    Matthysse - yes he's shot but still a good addition for anybody's resume nonetheless

    If we quantify them along with quality, I think they're pretty even.
    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
    Pacquiao beat Bradley who was a top 5 WW.
    I’m a Bradley fan but

    Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017

    In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /


    Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets

    Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.

    Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins

    Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way


    Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV

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    • #12
      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
      I’m a Bradley fan but

      Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017

      In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /


      Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets

      Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.

      Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins

      Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way


      Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV
      What? Please tell me who Garcia beat at that time at WW?

      You said Spence? That has to be a joke. At the time Pacquiao fought Bradley, Spence's best win was Chris Van Heerden.

      What are we even doing right now? Bradley was absolutely a top 5 WW when Pacquiao beat him.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        I’m a Bradley fan but

        Bradley wasn’t top5 in 2016-2017

        In those years he beat Vargas and Rios . No one had Bradley ranked above Thurman / Spence / Brook / Manny / Garcia /Porter /


        Beating high quality Opponets holds more weight then beating a bunch of lower quality Opponets

        Since fighting PAC , 2 retired right after and neither of the other 3 have a high quality win since. Horns best name is 104 year old Mundine / Vargas has Dulhorme.

        Porter has beat Garcia and Ugas both high quality wins

        Garcia has beat Rios better Name then A decrepit Mundine and Dulhorme and the Porter fight could have went either way


        Thurman beating Porter / Garcia in their Primes trumps the 5 names on Pacs CV
        You didn’t know that Pac and Bradley were WWs #2 and #3 when they fought in 2016? That’s when Pac became the Lineal champ after winning.

        You seem to be more on just quality of opponents, I understand. But I just feel that quantity also compensates. Plus Pac’s opposition aren’t really bad. As you just said earlier post, they were descent opposition. Resumes can also be a numbers game.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
          What? Please tell me who Garcia beat at that time at WW?

          You said Spence? That has to be a joke. At the time Pacquiao fought Bradley, Spence's best win was Chris Van Heerden.

          What are we even doing right now? Bradley was absolutely a top 5 WW when Pacquiao beat him.
          I’m pretty sure Danny was holding the WBC strap when PAC/Bradley had their Trilogy l, add to it he was the man at 140 I think that should hold some weight and have him
          Above Bradley at the time, you disagree cool

          Bradley 32-33 clearly Had 1 Foot out the door and even if
          Rated higher I doubt in 2016 many would have favoured Bradley over Thurman / Porter/Brook / Spence /Garcia. 4/5 of the fighters listed are natural WW who have a size advantage over Bradley , He never faced a natural WW in his career you really think that wasn’t by choice. If you think That version of Bradley & 4 or 5 other decent names hold more weight then Beating Garcia / Porter I don’t know what to say

          Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
          You didn’t know that Pac and Bradley were WWs #2 and #3 when they fought in 2016? That’s when Pac became the Lineal champ after winning.

          You seem to be more on just quality of opponents, I understand. But I just feel that quantity also compensates. Plus Pac’s opposition aren’t really bad. As you just said earlier post, they were descent opposition. Resumes can also be a numbers game.
          To me that’s what matters Quality over Quantity. Thurman’s 2 wins and when he beat them are far better then the list of PAC foes even added up

          I don’t know you may feel that beating 4 lower class fighters and 1 Good fighter trump beating 2 prime Top Tier Fighters / I don’t but that just me

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          • #15
            I rate Bradley high. But ima have to go with Thurman. Garcia and Porter back to back??

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            • #16
              Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
              I’m pretty sure Danny was holding the WBC strap when PAC/Bradley had their Trilogy l, add to it he was the man at 140 I think that should hold some weight and have him
              Above Bradley at the time, you disagree cool

              Bradley 32-33 clearly Had 1 Foot out the door and even if
              Rated higher I doubt in 2016 many would have favoured Bradley over Thurman / Porter/Brook / Spence /Garcia. 4/5 of the fighters listed are natural WW who have a size advantage over Bradley , He never faced a natural WW in his career you really think that wasn’t by choice. If you think That version of Bradley & 4 or 5 other decent names hold more weight then Beating Garcia / Porter I don’t know what to say



              To me that’s what matters Quality over Quantity. Thurman’s 2 wins and when he beat them are far better then the list of PAC foes even added up

              I don’t know you may feel that beating 4 lower class fighters and 1 Good fighter trump beating 2 prime Top Tier Fighters / I don’t but that just me
              Who did Garcia win that WBC title from? Washed up Robert f'n Guerrero who looked like utter crap against Aaron Martinez the fight prior.

              I just commented on you saying Pacquiao didn't beat any top 5 WW during that stretch and I said he did. By your own standards, DSG wasn't a top 5 WW when Thurman beat him either. Why? Because to me in 2017, Thurman/Brook/Spence/Porter/Pacquiao were all superior to him.

              Counting Garcia as a top 5 WW win and not Bradley as one, when he was actually top 10 P4P, is questionable.

              But whatever, we can agree to disagree.

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