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Old 03-24-2016, 05:33 PM #141
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No. I devalue a 'title' that isn't being defended against the best challengers.

When the title is being defended against average WW's like Khan, and not the clear 'challenger' (i use that term very loosely as GGG is a much more proven MW than Canelo) then the title stops being meaningful.
Also bare in mind it's not the first time these kind of scenarios exist.

Roy Jones was never the Lineal Champion at LHW, despite having basically all the belts. But everyone knew who the King of LHW was.

There's plenty of instances. The Lineage simply doesn't hold the weight it once did.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:50 PM #142
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Also bare in mind it's not the first time these kind of scenarios exist.

Roy Jones was never the Lineal Champion at LHW, despite having basically all the belts. But everyone knew who the King of LHW was.

There's plenty of instances. The Lineage simply doesn't hold the weight it once did.
Exactly. Lineages come in and out of relevance all the time

its fun to follow, but it doesnt always indicate who the 'real champion' is.

Does anyone recognize Adonis Stevenson as the champion at 175 anymore?

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Old 03-24-2016, 05:53 PM #143
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No. I devalue a 'title' that isn't being defended against the best challengers.

When the title is being defended against average WW's like Khan, and not the clear 'challenger' (i use that term very loosely as GGG is a much more proven MW than Canelo) then the title stops being meaningful.
Wow Khan is average ? Show some respect he has 10x the better resume than gg. And he's willing to move up to fight anyone unlike gg

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Old 03-24-2016, 05:54 PM #144
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Wow Khan is average ? Show some respect he has 10x the better resume than gg. And he's willing to move up to fight anyone unlike gg
I'd have him lower half of the WW top 10.

So he is, at world level, an average WW.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:58 PM #145
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you summed it all up...every fighter on the come up had to play b-side...its his turn...if you believe in yourself....go for it...its only a one time thing

greatness is earned not given...proof is in the pudding and he hasnt proven much if anything on the top level


never thought I'd see the day whenso called boxing fans are excited about a fighter being stripped and another being given a title....smdh...fake fans
What he said^^^^^
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