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Old 10-26-2016, 03:23 PM #51
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GGG is the prohibitive favorite in this matchup, and him having a one-off on Showtime is far less risky than you want it to be in order to serve your narrative.



Dunn, what you just did there is the definition of speculation. "Having an impact on that decision" and "HBO make Duva walk away" are two different things. HBO could have been a factor in Duva's decision, or HBO could have directly mandated something. Guess what? This is all speculation ffs.
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Old 10-26-2016, 03:42 PM #52
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Let me clarify. If Jacobs win the bid and HBO, like with Kov, will not let him fight on another network, he may be forced to drop it given this is a WBA ordered fight.

I think HBO wants an undefeated GGG fighting Canelo. I agree that GGG is clearly the man at 160. As such, his holding the WBA belt when if Canelo ever agrees to fight him doesn't enhance him anyway.

Jacobs only has power if he can make a deal before the purse bid. If it goes to a bid, he could be on the losing end or he could be on the winning side and then have the fight not happen due to politics, which none of us want.

I honestly can't see why they just don't make a deal and get it over already.
... or Daniel Jacobs, the American middleweight and arguably the #2 middleweight fighter on the planet, becomes the full world champion with the premier venue on the East Coast as his home venue.

Saul Alvarez eventually fighting at 160lbs would change the starpower dynamic, but Jacobs has the possibility of a Billy Joe Saunders unification (if Alvarez wants that fight, Saunders likely goes that way; if given the choice to only unify against Jacobs for the WBA or Golovkin for the IBF/WBC, the money likely points to Jacobs being the better option), Chris Eubank Jr is highly rated by the WBA (setting up a US/UK showdown that should draw significant interest on both shores), Alfonso Blanco is still a likely mandatory, and there are options for really good fights that would have resonance in NYC (Lee, Khurtsidze, a Quillin rematch if he comes back to 160lbs) and/or Showtime (Rob Brant and Ievgen Khytrov, though the opportunity may be coming a bit early for the two).

You add that Jacobs would ostensibly be getting his belt (regardless of the story that HBO/K2 is likely to push) because Golovkin walked away from fighting him, and you've got a narrative to push (as long as Jacobs keeps winning).

Anthony Joshua's got an entirely different profile, but Lou DiBella can take the 29-year old middleweight champion (#2 middleweight on the planet) and try to do something similar; flood Jacobs' face/profile in NYC, build fights that hold resonance for him in NYC, and work to make "Miracle Man" an institution on the East Coast.

Jacobs' "power" comes from the fact that he can rightly say that he's a middleweight champion; as long as he can say that (whether that means stepping in with Golovkin if a deal is made or simply having Golovkin walk away because it affects K2's HBO business), he'll always have standing.
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Old 10-26-2016, 03:46 PM #53
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... or Daniel Jacobs, the American middleweight and arguably the #2 middleweight fighter on the planet, becomes the full world champion with the premier venue on the East Coast as his home venue.

Saul Alvarez eventually fighting at 160lbs would change the starpower dynamic, but Jacobs has the possibility of a Billy Joe Saunders unification (if Alvarez wants that fight, Saunders likely goes that way; if given the choice to only unify against Jacobs for the WBA or Golovkin for the IBF/WBC, the money likely points to Jacobs being the better option), Chris Eubank Jr is highly rated by the WBA (setting up a US/UK showdown that should draw significant interest on both shores), Alfonso Blanco is still a likely mandatory, and there are options for really good fights that would have resonance in NYC (Lee, Khurtsidze, a Quillin rematch if he comes back to 160lbs) and/or Showtime (Rob Brant and Ievgen Khytrov, though the opportunity may be coming a bit early for the two).

You add that Jacobs would ostensibly be getting his belt (regardless of the story that HBO/K2 is likely to push) because Golovkin walked away from fighting him, and you've got a narrative to push (as long as Jacobs keeps winning).

Anthony Joshua's got an entirely different profile, but Lou DiBella can take the 29-year old middleweight champion (#2 middleweight on the planet) and try to do something similar; flood Jacobs' face/profile in NYC, build fights that hold resonance for him in NYC, and work to make "Miracle Man" an institution on the East Coast.

Jacobs' "power" comes from the fact that he can rightly say that he's a middleweight champion; as long as he can say that (whether that means stepping in with Golovkin if a deal is made or simply having Golovkin walk away because it affects K2's HBO business), he'll always have standing.
Jacobs can't unify with Saunders. Jacobs is just an interim champion (okey, "regular") and WBA is trying to eliminate those fake titles.

The real WBA champion is Golovkin.

Saunders is #2 at MW. Then comes Jacobs.
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