Wilder has to fight Whyte and Ruiz to get a shot at AJ

[The plunger man]

AJ is way more complete of a fighter than wilder, but AJs main flaw of being straight up and down will play right into Wilders hands. AJ will get hit, every fighter has shown AJ is more than hitable, but Will he be able to get back up? Thats what AJs fans are worried about.

As far as money and deals turned down im not interested. I dont really follow that. I know theres more to business than 2-3 sentences on a contract.

just watch how slow Ortiz was in his last fight and even then he was out boxing wilder.
Joshua can box or punch and i guarantee you once he lands on wilder he will be laid out...
Wilder has already been schooled by fury and had his titles rescued for him by the judges so already he has been beaten.
until wilder has the balls to sign and face Joshua we might as well forget it.
We have already seen wilder turn down 120 million for 2 fights with AJ

[Lopez_Boxing]

just watch how slow Ortiz was in his last fight and even then he was out boxing wilder.
Joshua can box or punch and i guarantee you once he lands on wilder he will be laid out...
Wilder has already been schooled by fury and had his titles rescued for him by the judges so already he has been beaten.
until wilder has the balls to sign and face Joshua we might as well forget it.
We have already seen wilder turn down 120 million for 2 fights with AJ

Lmao. AJ as actually been knocked out so he has kinda really been beaten. The difference is Wilder has confidence and REALLY believes he won. AJ doesn't have confidence and ran from an overweight club fighter that didnt even train.

AJ will go into the wilder fight scared to death of wilders power and he will make mistakes. Wilder will go into the fight waiting for that ONE opening. AJ will give it to him. Its battle of the best HWs of the worst HW era. It's a shame we are giving a mediocre boxer and a terrible one so much thought.

[BangEM]

Actually Fury got crapped on for that. I disagree, if he becomes lennox 2.0 instead of wlad 2.0, he will get respect. Who isn't giving him the respect he deserves now?

Well we know he has to fight Pulev and then WBO mando. Lets hope after that we get the big fight we all want.

At least you are honest about him possibly milking it by staying in Europe.

LMAO. If Fury got crapped, no one would even be putting him in the top-5 right now since he has only fought bums.

Josh doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. When he got overly ambitious and decided to fight in the US, I always said it was a bad move. Bad things happen when you chase things - you just have to stay on your path and let things come to you. If it's meant to be, it would be and people would celebrate you when it happens. And Josh finally realised this and in his post-fight interview, he said chasing these guys is what led him to the trap. Henceforth, he's going to start listening to Rob more and start taking it slow. No need to rush - he's only 30. If he fights everyone now, who would be there for him to fight in 2years? There are only 2 or 3 names left for him to beat and retire. So, why not do what the rest are doing, whilst building your brand and perfecting your craft?

I doubt he's going to fight Usyk as a mando. The fight would be better off as a unification fight, to make it bigger.

Wilder chats so much shyte and his bubble is going to burst soon. Matchroom are pushing for the Whyte mando before entertaining a Wilder fight. If PBC/Wilder think they can block Whyte out and get a shot at AJ - they would've to vacate that belt for a franchise one. LMAO.

[Froch_uppercut]

I'll bite

How is fighting Whyte or Ruiz not a step down for Wilder after fighting Fury

Fury aint that good, and neither is Wilder, but the perception that they are helps both their resumes. they should fight each other 20 times, it would impress some people.

Where are the Povetkins, the Whytes, the Klitschkos, the Parkers etc on Wilder's resume?

Here's his boxrec lol. I peeled out the last few fights, those are relevant.

2017-11-04 Bermane Stiverne 25 2 1 Barclays Center, Brooklyn
W
KO

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2017-02-25 Gerald Washington 18 0 1 Legacy Arena, Birmingham
W
TKO

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2016-07-16 Chris Arreola 36 4 1 Legacy Arena, Birmingham
W
RTD

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2016-01-16 Artur Szpilka 20 1 0 Barclays Center, Brooklyn
W
KO

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2015-09-26 Johann Duhaupas 32 2 0 Legacy Arena, Birmingham
W
TKO

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2015-06-13 Eric Molina 23 2 0 Bartow Arena, Birmingham
W
KO

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2015-01-17 Bermane Stiverne 24 1 1 MGM Grand, Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas
W
UD

World Boxing Council World Heavy Title
2014-08-16 Jason Gavern 25 16 4 StubHub Center, Carson
W
RTD

2014-03-15 Malik Scott 36 1 1 Coliseo Ruben Rodriguez, Bayamon
W
KO

2013-10-26 Nicolai Firtha 21 10 1 Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City
W
KO

World Boxing Council Continental Americas Heavy Title
2013-08-09 Siarhei Liakhovich 25 5 0 Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio
W
KO

World Boxing Council Continental Americas Heavy Title
2013-04-27 Audley Harrison 31 6 0 Sheffield Arena, Sheffield
W
TKO

2013-01-19 Matthew Greer 15 8 0 Centro de Convenciones, Villahermosa
W
TKO

2012-12-15 Kelvin Price 13 0 0 Sports Arena, Los Angeles
W
KO

vacant World Boxing Council Continental Americas Heavy Title
2012-09-08 Damon McCreary 14 0 0 The Hangar, Costa Mesa
W
KO

2012-08-04 Kertson Manswell 23 5 0 Exposition Hall, Mobile
W
TKO



2012-06-23 Owen Beck 29 10 0 Killer Buzz Arena, Tuscaloosa
W
RTD

2012-05-26 Jesse Oltmanns 10 2 0 Oasis Hotel Complex, Cancun
W
TKO

2012-02-25 Marlon Hayes 23 10 0 Scottrade Center, Saint Louis
W
TKO

2011-11-26 David Long 11 1 2 U.S. Bank Arena, Cincinnati
W
KO

2011-11-05 Daniel Cota 17 3 1 Centro de Cancun, Cancun
W
KO

2011-08-27 Dominique Alexander 20 11 1 Water Oaks Farm Arena, Tuscaloosa
W
TKO

2011-06-18 Damon Reed 46 15 0 Tuscaloosa Amphitheater, Tuscaloosa
W
KO

2011-05-06 Reggie Pena 6 6 0 Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio
W
TKO

2011-02-19 DeAndrey Abron 15 6 0 Shelton State Community College, Tuscaloosa
W
TKO

2010-12-02 Dan Sheehan 11 38 0 Hilton Towers Ballroom, Lafayette
W
KO

2010-10-15 Harold Sconiers 17 20 2 Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio
W
TKO

2010-09-25 Shannon Caudle 9 0 1 Fitzgerald's Casino & Hotel, Tunica
W
KO

2010-07-03 Dustin Nichols 4 2 0 Club Palace, Hattiesburg
W
RTD

2010-04-30 Alvaro Morales 4 7 5 Tropicana Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas
W
TKO

2010-04-02 Ty Cobb 7 1 0 Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas
W
KO

2009-11-28 Jerry Vaughn 2 0 1 Duke Energy Convention Center, Cincinnati
W
KO

2009-08-14 Travis Allen 3 4 0 Desert Diamond Casino, Tucson
W
TKO

2009-06-26 Kelsey Arnold 1 2 2 Desert Diamond Casino, Tucson
W
KO

2009-05-23 Charles Brown 6 15 1 Duke Energy Convention Center, Cincinnati
W
KO

2009-04-24 Joseph Rabotte 3 5 0 UIC Pavilion, Chicago
W
KO

2009-03-14 Richard Greene Jr 1 1 0 Duke Energy Convention Center, Cincinnati
W
RTD

2009-03-06 Shannon Gray 1 0 0 Trotter Convention Center, Columbus
W
TKO

2008-11-15 Ethan Cox 2 2 1 Vanderbilt University Memorial Gymnasium, Nashville
W
TKO

[Froch_uppercut]

Lmao. AJ as actually been knocked out so he has kinda really been beaten. The difference is Wilder has confidence and REALLY believes he won. AJ doesn't have confidence and ran from an overweight club fighter that didnt even train.

AJ will go into the wilder fight scared to death of wilders power and he will make mistakes. Wilder will go into the fight waiting for that ONE opening. AJ will give it to him. Its battle of the best HWs of the worst HW era. It's a shame we are giving a mediocre boxer and a terrible one so much thought.

Please....try and get wilder to fight and stop avoiding like a *****.

Tired of his lies.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Please....try and get wilder to fight and stop avoiding like a *****.

Tired of his lies.

All these guys are full of it. Just like AJ claimed he was going to ko Ruiz and didnt even try. Run. Jab. Clinch. And this is Ruiz we are talking about.

[ReggieKray]

This thread is moronic, Wilder has the WBC. A unification fight trumps all. This has nothing to do with Wilder deserving **** but with what the people want, including AJ, for seeking seeking undisputed unification.

Saying Wilder should fight whoever AJ has lost to only either delays AJs unification which makes no sense if you think he could woop Wilder, or you are just trying to keep AJ away from Wilder to protect him from losing his belts anytime soon, which is the only sensible way to interpret your post.

[Inspired]

I agree that Wilder needs to step up and fight elite HW...but they will make him box in house pbc fighters in fixed fights again. He needs to fight matchroom fighters to prove himself. The likes of whyte and parker will do.
i imagine wilder would ko whyte badly because he has no defence. Parker is lacklustre in that he has no desire whatsoever, just a lazy NZer attitude...but if he really was game for the wilder fight, i could see him beating Wilder. He's supposed to have a solid chin and was only knocked down by whyte due to the head clash and concussion...and still went the distance and dropped whyte in the 12th. We know he can punch.

[The plunger man]

All these guys are full of it. Just like AJ claimed he was going to ko Ruiz and didnt even try. Run. Jab. Clinch. And this is Ruiz we are talking about.

Joshua won by a shut out , toyed with him and clinically beat him.
Wilder was embarrassed by fury and outboxed and really has a loss on his record.
Joshua will ruthlessly despatch wilder if and when wilder accepts the fight.
He had already turned down 120 million dollars in 2 fights with AJ lol

[4truth]

Joshua won by a shut out , toyed with him and clinically beat him.
Wilder was embarrassed by fury and outboxed and really has a loss on his record.
Joshua will ruthlessly despatch wilder if and when wilder accepts the fight.
He had already turned down 120 million dollars in 2 fights with AJ lol

Joshua didn't win by a shutout, though he won by plenty. He didn't toy with anyone, he fought like a man afraid to make one false step, which is what he was. Joshua did beat Ruiz clinically. A job well done, no need to exaggerate.