Comments Thread For: Arum: Crawford-Spence Fight Could Be Made in 3 Hours!

[deanrw]

There's no need to say anything; Arum will gin stuff up now, but in not all that much time, he's going to make the announcement that Terence Crawford's next fight is going to be against Kavailuaskas (?) and the boxing world will go 'wtf?'.

Errol has already said what he's said, he'll likely finalize a fight for December/January that'll likely set up the Porter unification fight for the Spring (with Keith Thurman back at some point in that time), and he'll handle his business without giving Arum any chance to link anything to what he's doing.

Let Arum sell the 'Mean Machine' fight for the Spring, and then try to sell Besputin for the summer, lol.

I see it like this. Whether we trust Arum or not, he is the only one out here talking about making that fight. If Spence and the PBC stay completely silent, that is not a good look for them.

[Scipio2009]

We are talking about the WBC here.. shenanigans will be a certainty. They will pull some kind of BS and make Canelo some kind of super duper champion and let Charlo fight someone else for a title.

I haven't heard anything out of Charlos camp about a possible GGG fight yet but I assume they know GGG is gonna fight elsewhere then chase the 3rd Canelo fight late next year. I wanna see the big fights as much as anyone but having most the guys at DAZN now doesn't bode well for Charlo unless he can fight over there instead of a PBC show.

DAZN has Canelo and Andrade, with Eddie Hearn publicly using the lure of fighting Canelo, his words, making it clear that the Jacobs deal is coming due too.

Everyone else, outside of maybe Ryota Murata (Mr Honda doing business with Arum for as long as he seemingly has, and Arum not ****ing him yet, along with the Japanese sensibility of doing things likely means that he's staying with Arum/ESPN) is free to move about and make the fights that make the most sense to them.

[Scipio2009]

I see it like this. Whether we trust Arum or not, he is the only one out here talking about making that fight. If Spence and the PBC stay completely silent, that is not a good look for them.

I disagree.

No different than Eddie Hearn/Joshua talking all that mess about the Wilder fight, being seen as the ones not making it, and basically getting no pub for the fight they wanted instead (or now Dillian Whyte running his mouth about Luis Ortiz ducking him, only for Luis Ortiz to confront him with the slot for the 'ducked fight' as the Wilder co-feature, only for Whyte to now say that the fight should actually be in the UK, only for Ortiz to say ok, with Eddie Hearn having to now jump in an basically say that Whyte was just bull****ting), the world is changing.

The slow death of HBO, more than anything, killed Bob Arum's ability to control access to the marketable fights, which in turn left him shaping the boxing media covering the sport (Cover something in a way that Arum doesn't like, you get frozen out; cover things consistently the way that Arum wants, or simply printing his word as news, and you maintain maximum access).

With PBC having at least 30 big events to their name each year, and being the dominant presenter of big fights, in this country anyway, reporters can call fight events because the access for their livelihood is no longer dependent on glowing profiles of a promoter's fighter.

Arum can talk until he's blue in the face, but if, after all of this talking Arum hasn't moved beyond his initial 50/50 split event on a PPV that does at least 500k buys (a split situation that's literally happened only two times in the history of PPV), and Crawford really does fight 'Mean Machine' in March, with again nothing happening, and then tries to set Crawford vs Besputin or Besputin-Benevidez winner, the folks ****ting on Arum will be well beyond the folks he can simply quell with direct access.

[rickJen]

No response from Espinoza/Haymon yet?
It's been more than a week since Arum made the challenge.
Pac said Crawford is scared of him, and TC shot back within hours.

[Ray*]

This fight can be made, Spence doesn’t have an active promoter. Arum has been vocal about wanting the fight, not sure how is relationship is at the moment with Haymon but this fight can be made.

[Ray*]

No response from Espinoza/Haymon yet?
It's been more than a week since Arum made the challenge.
Pac said Crawford is scared of him, and TC shot back within hours.

Espinoza more like it not haymon.

[ptek]

what blueprint is that?

Mayweather, it's the Mayweather blue print dude.

[deanrw]

This fight can be made, Spence doesn’t have an active promoter. Arum has been vocal about wanting the fight, not sure how is relationship is at the moment with Haymon but this fight can be made.

Arum said he wants it. Al Haymon does not want it anytime soon according to Floyd.

[deanrw]

I disagree.

No different than Eddie Hearn/Joshua talking all that mess about the Wilder fight, being seen as the ones not making it, and basically getting no pub for the fight they wanted instead (or now Dillian Whyte running his mouth about Luis Ortiz ducking him, only for Luis Ortiz to confront him with the slot for the 'ducked fight' as the Wilder co-feature, only for Whyte to now say that the fight should actually be in the UK, only for Ortiz to say ok, with Eddie Hearn having to now jump in an basically say that Whyte was just bull****ting), the world is changing.

The slow death of HBO, more than anything, killed Bob Arum's ability to control access to the marketable fights, which in turn left him shaping the boxing media covering the sport (Cover something in a way that Arum doesn't like, you get frozen out; cover things consistently the way that Arum wants, or simply printing his word as news, and you maintain maximum access).

With PBC having at least 30 big events to their name each year, and being the dominant presenter of big fights, in this country anyway, reporters can call fight events because the access for their livelihood is no longer dependent on glowing profiles of a promoter's fighter.

Arum can talk until he's blue in the face, but if, after all of this talking Arum hasn't moved beyond his initial 50/50 split event on a PPV that does at least 500k buys (a split situation that's literally happened only two times in the history of PPV), and Crawford really does fight 'Mean Machine' in March, with again nothing happening, and then tries to set Crawford vs Besputin or Besputin-Benevidez winner, the folks ****ting on Arum will be well beyond the folks he can simply quell with direct access.

[Scipio2009]

Arum already has Kavaliauskas lined up for the next fight in April for Terence Crawford, with Arum lining up Besputin for the fight after that, regardless of what he's rambling about in public (50/50 on a fight that Arum is only even willing to entertain when he thinks it can generate 500k, with Top Rank having lead say on the deal, and ESPN and one of the PBC broadcasters fronting the money and sharing 7%? gtfoh).

Spence has his next 12-18 months pretty well lined up; the next big fight is wbc champion Shawn Porter, with the big big fight being the Thurman fight for the main three belts. There'll be maybe 2 tickovers mixed in, but his path is clear.

There's no need to lie here.

Spence will do his thing, Crawford will do whatever he's going to do, and then talks can happen on real terms (50/50 on everything simply doesn't make sense anyway)