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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostSo we're gonna act like Ward didn't sit out 20 months due to contractual issues?
And Ward last fought 11-16-2013, against #6 SMW Edwin Rodriguez. After a 20 month layoff, he took a tuneup against Paul Smith, not 3. Don't tell outright lies when the truth only takes 30 seconds to Google dude.
Funny because he sure was talking like he was available and just waiting on on offer lol.
He even said that people were using his promotional problems as an "excuse" to duck him.
So which one is it?
He was not available but was conning the public into thinking he was being avoided or he was available and just chose to not fight anybody for 19 months?
He's ****ed either way here lol
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Originally posted by ChestRockwell View PostPlease don't defend the Rodriguez fight. You sound desperate. Three tune ups since draining Chad Dawson down to super middleweight.
Dawson volunteered 168. No matter how many times you say Ward drained him, it will never be true.
The above statements show that YOU are the desperate one hiding from the truth, not me
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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostYou don't take a tuneup against a top fighter. That defeats the purpose of calling it a tuneup.
How is Kovalev taking a tuneup when he's an active fighter? In any case, his next opponent is a guy that he knocked out 2 fights ago lol. There's nothing to do at LHW, and fighting a guy that you dominated less than a year ago shows that.
Kovalev also isn't talking trash to make himself feel safe. He knows Ward is the real deal, and will prepare properly for him, not that it will matter.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...dre-ward-fight
Ward's 3 fight deal is contingent on Ward facing Kovalev at the end of it. I hope there's no excuses when Ward wins
And sure, Ward shouldn't be fighting top ten LHW as Tune ups.
But this is his second SMW he dragged up to LHW.
This one is a SMW, 38, badly overmatched, and he only has 3 weeks to train.
These last two fights do nothing for him in terms of getting ready.
There are plenty of bad LHW he could tune up against.
Originally posted by zzat View PostCan you share the link that shows how much GGG rehydrates to?
Here is one for recent fights, except it hasn't been updated. For Lemieux.
http://basementgymboxing.blogspot.co...s-list-of.html
GGG cam in at 170 for both Monroe and Lemieux.
You Can Google it. It's everywhere. GGG never hides his rehydration weight. And he owns belts that mandate the weights.
He comes in a 170-171.
Not sure why that matters here. But in terms of Canelo fight, Canelo comes in 171-175.
Ward hides his fight night weight, but it's largely believed he comes in at least 185, maybe 190.
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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostWard facing a top 10 SMW doesn't need a defense. He cleaned up the division and then fought a guy ranked in the top 10.
Dawson volunteered 168. No matter how many times you say Ward drained him, it will never be true.
The above statements show that YOU are the desperate one hiding from the truth, not me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kESjBFza_NQ
As for Dawson, watch Ward's team go ape**** in the press conference when Dawson and Shaw talk about who's idea it was for the fight to be at 168:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwNn-jrV98
Virgil Hunter acting like a complete scumbag to take attention away from Shaw n Dawson letting the cat out of the bag lol
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Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostSo we're gonna act like Ward didn't sit out 20 months due to contractual issues?
And Ward last fought 11-16-2013, against #6 SMW Edwin Rodriguez. After a 20 month layoff, he took a tuneup against Paul Smith, not 3. Don't tell outright lies when the truth only takes 30 seconds to Google dude.
Originally posted by ChestRockwell View PostIt's laughable. That's all you can do, is laugh. You can't reason with these people. There is some kind of misfire in their brains.
Originally posted by doom_specialist View PostWard facing a top 10 SMW doesn't need a defense. He cleaned up the division and then fought a guy ranked in the top 10.
Dawson volunteered 168. No matter how many times you say Ward drained him, it will never be true.
The above statements show that YOU are the desperate one hiding from the truth, not me
If Ward won't fight at a CW, it's forcing someone down. If Ward had agreed to a CW, they would have done it.
Dawson had little choice if he wanted a shot at Ward.
He shouldn't of done it, because it hurt him bad.
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Originally posted by i'm a fun haver View PostNo, Ward talked his way out of the Bute fight in the post fight interview of the Super6 final, despite saying this before the fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kESjBFza_NQ
As for Dawson, watch Ward's team go ape**** in the press conference when Dawson and Shaw talk about who's idea it was for the fight to be at 168:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwNn-jrV98
Virgil Hunter acting like a complete scumbag to take attention away from Shaw n Dawson letting the cat out of the bag lol
Dawson called out Ward after dominating B-Hop, and plainly said that he could get down to 168 with no problems. Post whatever you like, but that's what happened, and no amount of spin doctoring will change that.
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Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View PostSo two tune ups, neither actually a real tune up. Pulling SMW up to LHW, what's that!
I've been laughing at Ward all week.
By that logic, everyone volunteers for a CW.
If Ward won't fight at a CW, it's forcing someone down. If Ward had agreed to a CW, they would have done it.
Dawson had little choice if he wanted a shot at Ward.
He shouldn't of done it, because it hurt him bad.
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Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View PostSure.
Here is one for recent fights, except it hasn't been updated. For Lemieux.
http://basementgymboxing.blogspot.co...s-list-of.html
GGG cam in at 170 for both Monroe and Lemieux.
You Can Google it. It's everywhere. GGG never hides his rehydration weight. And he owns belts that mandate the weights.
He comes in a 170-171.
Not sure why that matters here. But in terms of Canelo fight, Canelo comes in 171-175.
Ward hides his fight night weight, but it's largely believed he comes in at least 185, maybe 190.- You seem to be hung up on how much Canelo rehydrates to.
- On January 21, 2015 GGG was 172lb. 30 days before the Murray fight. http://******.craveonline.com/news/3...tin-murray-169
- I've asked you this two times before and you didn't bother to respond.
I don't believe GGG is as small as you would like us to believe.
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