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Activity and Coming Forward Does Not Equal Winning a Round!
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Please tell me how Canelo beat Golovkin in the 'effective aggression' category..
Canelo's aggression can't have been that effective if Golovkin marched forward all fight and outworked Canelo, who stayed on the back foot for most of the fight. Golovkins was effective enough to keep Canelo (a natural aggressive fighter) to keep back pedalling.
Also, enough of this 'close fight so Canelo could have won' nonsense. There aren't many people who scored for Canelo. The draw was Canelos best case. A close fight doesn't mean a case can be made for either side.. this fight was fairly clear.
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So Canelo lands 4 more power shots than GGG thats why he wins the fight?
"Just because he came forward does not mean he won the round"
You making it seem like he wasn't doing anything coming forward. Yes he missed a lot. He out landed Canelo total. So he was coming forward. Throwing and Landing more (Activity).
Had it 115-113 to Golovkin. 114-114 plausible. 115-113 Canelo if you gift him a middle round. 1-3 Canelo (One of those goes either way) 4-9 Golovkin. 10 and 12 Alvarez and 11 GGG
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Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View PostSo once again your following what other's regurgitate apparently!
So you score fights on what you "think" landed but disguise it as you know from compubox?!
Interesting...answer me this!
If your in a fight and you throw more and it lands but not effectively but the other guy is snapping your head back with harder shots while making you miss as well...who would you rather be?
See you boxing fan casuals have the audacity to speak on boxing as if you know anything about the sweet science!
You admit Canelo hitting GGG while making him miss(counter punching) which is a big scoring criteria while you contradict yourself comparing Canelo with Rigo/Lara which coincide with Canelo's style(hit and dont get hit)
How in the hell did Canelo make GGG miss 70% of his punches and gets no credit for that and you have the impudence to claim it was "ineffective defense" smfh!
You say Canelo's defensive minded but yet made GGG miss nearly EVERYTHING including his Sunday's punch!
Floyd controlled distance by using "FOOTWORK"....I'll say it again so you can catch it...Footwork!
He would step outta range to get a better position for his own range and gain better distance to land counters....ring a bell yet?!
He would circle his opponents to make them reset their rhythm and back up to walk his opponents....well you know the "aggressors" into counter punches...still not ringing a bell?!!
Dictating pace means you fighting to your strengths!
I'll say it again, was it a "big drama show" or a boxing match that favors the counter puncher!
You score for fighters that come forward an that throw and miss punches or that lands on gloves or even grazed but not for the guy's that countered with the harder punches (more effective) and defense(hit n don't get hit), and the man who did what he wanted(when he wants to box in the middle, fight close quarters, off the ropes or on the move he did it=ring generalship)
GGG wants a war and toe to toe fight and Canelo made him follow him to counter him up and down with the harder shots and took a rest when he wanted and GGG never capitalized to where it looked like a "big drama show"...you know a knockout or even a knockdown!
So a jab, moving forward , taking more punishment and throwing more, landing less effective punches = winning??
Dude just please stop watching boxing, it's not for you!
Go watch bar room brawls at your local bar at 2am in the morning if you think boxing is about who comes forward, throws more, takes more and is aggressive! SMFH
Logic is lost on this forum sometimes.
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Originally posted by Bjl12 View PostCa$h don't run boy. He evades, counters, and makes monsters look amateur.
That's what you saw last night.
Some people think if you slap someone 100000 times a round while eating thudding power punches...the slapper wins the round as long as they come forward.
Excellent chin by Ggg, but Cash won last night and it's a shame he got robbed :/
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I had it a draw. And in response to GGG landing more punches, the majority of those punches were jabs that had no effect and led to nothing. The only reason GGG threw so many jabs is because he was so ineffectual with everything else and when Canelo was against the ropes he was afraid to go in due to counter punches from Canelo so he settled on flicking out his jab.
The point of the jab is to set up combinations and GGG was not doing this.
The point of the jab is to use it to get inside and GGG was not using his jab to get inside.
The point of using the jab is for defense and to interrupt the other fighters rhythm or to keep him occupied, keep him at bay.
Now GGG did not use the jab for any of the above reasons. He only used it because he could not land anything else effectively and because he was bothered by Canelo's power shots. GGG was reduced to jab throwing in order to land anything. That is why Canelo was not bothered by the jab nor did he waste energy trying to dodge it. This is why I did not credit GGG's jab with winning him the fight. The jabs landing were immaterial. Plus I will go with Canelo's body punches over GGG jabs any day.
This fight resembles somewhat Toney-Jirov. GGG style is very similar to Jirov. Although Toney was much more effective than Canelo many complained about the outcome of that fight too. HBO had it for Jirov, so did Lederman, and so did the people in attendance and many in the press. But over time history has proven it was a masterful performance by Toney with his precise counter punching, even though he did not throw nearly as many punches as Jirov and Jirov was the aggressor. GGG reminds me so much of Jirov.Last edited by jdp28tx; 09-19-2017, 04:33 AM.
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Originally posted by AneesMoha View PostSo Canelo lands 4 more power shots than GGG thats why he wins the fight?
"Just because he came forward does not mean he won the round"
You making it seem like he wasn't doing anything coming forward. Yes he missed a lot. He out landed Canelo total. So he was coming forward. Throwing and Landing more (Activity).
Had it 115-113 to Golovkin. 114-114 plausible. 115-113 Canelo if you gift him a middle round. 1-3 Canelo (One of those goes either way) 4-9 Golovkin. 10 and 12 Alvarez and 11 GGG
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