The Fact Remains Lara, Andrade, Charlo went life and death with Vanes Martirosyan

[HeadShots]

The fact is.. Lara, Charlo, an Andrade were all 154 pounders who has repeatedly called the bigger 160 ggg out! Lara is still at 154.. its a reason the ibf didnt sanction this rubbishry... but they said yes to the kell brook fight because he was a 147 ibf champion? Smh..

Vanes is on the exact same level as them and got knocked out in 2 rounds by GGG.


GGG is a cut above.


End of discussion.

[satiev1]

Vanes hadn't fought in two years and though the other losses were close he was outclassed by Lara and looked beyond his better days in that fight. Not every fighter ages the same.

I was at the fight and wasn't against the fight and have a lot of respect for GGG but let's not act like this was an amazing win.

If you are in camp tranining like vanes was layoff is not a negative thing. Mayweather took two years off and came back to win against marquez. Ward took 2 years off and came back to clean out the division. Taking time and letting the body heal is a positive thing and also not cutting any weight.

[Southpawology]

This is a fact. Trying to spin a 31 yr old as out of prime doesn't work either when GGG is 36. Vanes also didn't have to cut weight for the first time.


Marty could've split any of those fights with those guys. He's neck to neck with Lara, Andrade and Charlo. This is a fact.


All the rest is speculation.

All good and TRUTH based points. A certain group of people wont like this though lol

[Eff Pandas]

Vanes hadn't fought in two years and though the other losses were close he was outclassed by Lara and looked beyond his better days in that fight. Not every fighter ages the same.

I was at the fight and wasn't against the fight and have a lot of respect for GGG but let's not act like this was an amazing win.

This.

But I guess never let facts mess up a good headline either lol.

[-Kev-]

I wonder if GGG can stop fighting for 2 years, and then on his first fight back, fight at 168 with 2 weeks to train and fight Groves, with Groves being active and having a full camp.

How would that look?

[SugarRayCurtain]

vanes was an underrated win given the performance
But still no evidence GGG is much better than Hurd, Lara and the Charlos.
If GGG was so great he should have beaten Canelo hands down, its clear GGG is really just on the same level as the guys mentioned above

[HeadShots]

All good and TRUTH based points. A certain group of people wont like this though lol

they welfare merchants raised by single moms.

they are a lost cause.

[satiev1]

I wonder if GGG can stop fighting for 2 years, and then on his first fight back, fight at 168 with 2 weeks to train and fight Groves, with Groves being active and having a full camp.

How would that look?

Considering ggg already broke his ribs in sparring it'd be a cakewalk.

[HeadShots]

Considering ggg already broke his ribs in sparring it'd be a cakewalk.

fact confirmed by Groves as well.

with sparring gloves nonetheless.

[5000boxing]

Vanes is on the exact same level as them and got knocked out in 2 rounds by GGG.


GGG is a cut above.


End of discussion.

Styles make fights and andrade is a southpaws which opens the debate for discussion. An charlo is way better than vanes. Vanes havent fought since the bucs won the superbowl.