Deontay Wilders "reign", the worst ever?

[KillaCamNZ]

Either he's a bumhunter, or he's unrefined slow learner.

Both of which, deserve some form of criticism.

[yammy25]

Frank Warren confirmed this himself...They were in talks but Fury opted to go ahead with his stay busy fight with Hammer. You say he was mando for Wlad...True, but you don't turn down an offer for a title, unless you believe there is a significant risk...i.e. Fury saw the Wilder fight as too risky which would have ruin his chance at Wlad...If he was sure of himself, he could have fought Wilder, winning the WBC belt and then faced Wlad in a unification bout who was then looking to reclaim his brother's belt...Fury didnt take the fight because he knew Wilder is too risky.

We all saw Wilder challenge Hearns and AJ on the night of the Brezaele fight to make that fight happen for this Winter...they declined.

So you can go ahead pretend that it didnt happen, but we all saw it happen.

Both of those fights got turned down for the same reason. Discount the fact that Wilder knew damn well that Fury was mandatory to klit and that irrespective of his Warren talks, Fury was going to say no because of the following reason.

Tyson Fury thinks : do i fight Wlad klitchko, on RTE PPV and Boxnation for 3 major belts and net millions as mandatory OR do i fight Deontay Wilder as a voluntary on sho time free to air in Alabama?

Anthony Joshua thinks : Hmmm.. As a very recently crowned british champion after beating whyte and raking in adulation from all the UK casuals do i fight charles martin for an easy belt on Sky PPV, netting millions from casual UK fans, or as above.. fight deontay wilder free to air with no TV deal and no PPV money as a voluntary.

The only reason the current top HW's have not fought Wilder, is because he brings absolutely nothing to the table financially in comparison with the other choices they had at the time.

If you want proof of that, the biggest shotime audience is wilder / stiverne fight when he won. The next largest audience after that fight was the broner fight against Granados last week.

Noone in the states cares about your boy and his little green belt! Thats why Haymon lost the bid to the russian, because he knew Deontay makes no money!!

If he had been built better, and fought better opposition then he would have generated more money, more viewing figures and actually brought something worthwhile to the table to tempt people into fighting him.

He is medium risk, with zero reward!! forget pedvetkin, its done!! Just fight someone else that is actually ranked before whining about unifications youve done nothing to deserve lol.

[Sugarhitman]

wilder could just figth ortiz if everyone is ducking him...oh wait that wont be happening. he vowed never to fight him. straight ducking!

Wilder never said he would never fight Ortiz...What he said was that Ortiz was doing all that talking but wasnt even signed up for the Clean Boxing Program (which was confirmed by the WBC and VADA)....He also said that he wouldnt fight a ped cheat on a short notice fight, because Ortiz could fail the test and delay Wilder's comeback fight.

If Ortiz becomes Wilder mando...he will fight.

[yammy25]

Wilder never said he would never fight Ortiz...What he said was that Ortiz was doing all that talking but wasnt even signed up for the Clean Boxing Program (which was confirmed by the WBC and VADA)....He also said that he wouldnt fight a ped cheat on a short notice fight, because Ortiz could fail the test and delay Wilder's comeback fight.

If Ortiz becomes Wilder mando...he will fight.

what was that ?

http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/testimonials/

No excuses...

[Sugarhitman]

Both of those fights got turned down for the same reason. Discount the fact that Wilder knew damn well that Fury was mandatory to klit and that irrespective of his Warren talks, Fury was going to say no because of the following reason.

Tyson Fury thinks : do i fight Wlad klitchko, on RTE PPV and Boxnation for 3 major belts and net millions as mandatory OR do i fight Deontay Wilder as a voluntary on sho time free to air in Alabama?

Anthony Joshua thinks : Hmmm.. As a very recently crowned british champion after beating whyte and raking in adulation from all the UK casuals do i fight charles martin for an easy belt on Sky PPV, netting millions from casual UK fans, or as above.. fight deontay wilder free to air with no TV deal and no PPV money as a voluntary.

The only reason the current top HW's have not fought Wilder, is because he brings absolutely nothing to the table financially in comparison with the other choices they had at the time.

If you want proof of that, the biggest shotime audience is wilder / stiverne fight when he won. The next largest audience after that fight was the broner fight against Granados last week.

Noone in the states cares about your boy and his little green belt! Thats why Haymon lost the bid to the russian, because he knew Deontay makes no money!!

If he had been built better, and fought better opposition then he would have generated more money, more viewing figures and actually brought something worthwhile to the table to tempt people into fighting him.

He is medium risk, with zero reward!! forget pedvetkin, its done!! Just fight someone else that is actually ranked before whining about unifications youve done nothing to deserve lol.

So Christian Hammer didnt have a title, nor does he bring anything to the table....So why did Fury fight him? **wink**

[yammy25]

So Christian Hammer didnt have a title, nor does he bring anything to the table....So why did Fury fight him? **wink**

That's already been discounted by an actual wilder fan as a tune-up for him taking the klit fight? lol..

Wilder and Haymon knew Fury was mandatory to klitschko and wanted klitschko. Fury publicly stated as did his camp that Hammer was a tune up fight for his world title bout.

Still.. better fight for a tune up than Wilders fight against Jason Gavern, the bum AJ sparked in 3 in his 11th pro fight. *wink wink

[joe strong]

Ruslan Chagaev defended against Matt Skelton & Carl Drumond...

Oleg Maskaev defended against Peter Okello before he lost to Sam Peter..
There have been some worse champions than Wilder...

[lopetego]

You forgot to add Wilder bought his #3 WBC rank. He went straight from fighting bums not even ranked in the top 30 to fight in an eliminator match

then he brought his buddy Scott to take a dive in said eliminator match for the title shot against Stiverne

underserved title shot
underserving champion
underserving hype

Wilder is a fraud

[Sugarhitman]

That's already been discounted by an actual wilder fan as a tune-up for him taking the klit fight? lol..

Wilder and Haymon knew Fury was mandatory to klitschko and wanted klitschko. Fury publicly stated as did his camp that Hammer was a tune up fight for his world title bout.

Still.. better fight for a tune up than Wilders fight against Jason Gavern, the bum AJ sparked in 3 in his 11th pro fight. *wink wink

So Fury reasoned that Hammer wasnt a threat to his plans, which is why he fought him despite being mando for Wlad....What? Was Fury afraid that losing to Wilder would have spoiled his chances with Wlad? LOL!

[yammy25]

So Fury reasoned that Hammer wasnt a threat to his plans, which is why he fought him despite being mando for Wlad....What? Was Fury afraid that losing to Wilder would have spoiled his chances with Wlad? LOL!

The fight with klitchko was always the fight.. he was mandatory to the belts so fought Hammer as a stay busy for the bout.. whats so hard to undertand about that ?

Fury was Mando from the end of 2014, klit had to fulfil Pulev and Jennings beforehand.

If fury fought Wilder as a voluntary for the WBC, he loses his mandatory position for Klits belts? so you say he fights wilder on free to air tv with no PPV money for a smaller purse because he's voluntary for one belt against an opponent that Fury's market demographic give 0 ****s about and that's a negative against him? LOL k gr8 b8 m8.

Wilder brings no money, thats a fact that not just wilder "haters" say, its s common belief held by boxing journalists world wide. If he wants to be the big man, then he can fight someone worth a **** that doesnt have a belt instead of whining for unification bouts he has no right to command.

Ortiz has enrolled and passed Vada, Stiverne dont want the work so why arent you asking for Deontay to fight old man luis?