Comments Thread For: Warren: Fury is #1 Heavyweight, Joshua is Spoiled Goods

[andocom]

Only in some political world does a guy remain a mandatory after looking like crap. Usyk needs to beat somebody up, somebody besides Belloo.

Are you serious? In your world someone gets their already instated mandatory pulled for winning a fight?

[EL GANCHO]

Nobody cares about Usyk, he has yet to prove himself at HW and because of some stupid WBO rule gets to skip the line and fight for the HW title?...that ain't right. Anyway, Unification trumps mandatories so if both parties agree to unify, then Usyk can wait and in the meantime fight someone and prove he deserves a shot at the title.

Usyk was undisputed at cruiserweight...hes prove himself and does deserve a shot at the heavyweight title

[Corelone]

Are you serious? In your world someone gets their already instated mandatory pulled for winning a fight?

It's not like he stomped a mud hole in the guy. It was more like the guy wore himself out looking for Usyk. One of these big boys get Usyk in a small ring and lights out.

[kafkod]

Sounds nice and makes the fans feel good, but that's not how boxing works.

Anthony Joshua has an exclusive promotional contract with Matchroom and is hired by Matchroom to fight on Matchroom cards.

Joshua works for Matchroom.

Joshua's MANAGER works for him, not his promoter.

You seriously think that Hearn could order AJ to vacate his WBO title - to benefit Matchroom, not AJ - and AJ would have to do it?

What brand of crack are you smoking?

The relationship between Hearn and AJ was defined for all to see when AJ put a cap on the money Eddie was allowed to offer Dillian Whyte to fight him in April, and Eddie had to cancel his pre-booked Wembley date as a result.

AJ is not "hired" by Matchroom to fight on Matchroom shows, you goofball. He isn't one of those part time pantomime actors you used to hire to "wrestle" on your shows, ffs!

[andocom]

It's not like he stomped a mud hole in the guy. It was more like the guy wore himself out looking for Usyk. One of these big boys get Usyk in a small ring and lights out.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with Usyk's WBO mandatory position after being undisputed champion and moving up as per their rules.

You said "Only in some political world does a guy remain a mandatory after looking like crap. Usyk needs to beat somebody up, somebody besides Belloo."

Do you now see how stupid that comment was? You think someone should lose their mandatory because they won a fight (absolutely no controversy with the decision) because you weren't happy with the style of their win. That makes zero sense, do better.

[sportbuddha]

Warren getting carried away on his own hype train, next stop ‘pointless rematch’ for a cash in.

[Corelone]

And that has absolutely nothing to do with Usyk's WBO mandatory position after being undisputed champion and moving up as per their rules.

You said "Only in some political world does a guy remain a mandatory after looking like crap. Usyk needs to beat somebody up, somebody besides Belloo."

Do you now see how stupid that comment was? You think someone should lose their mandatory because they won a fight (absolutely no controversy with the decision) because you weren't happy with the style of their win. That makes zero sense, do better.

What is stupid? He got the position for his achievements, he can lose it for non achievements. I don't care if he gets his shot, he won't beat Hearns percentages.

[sportbuddha]

In the real world, Usyk is the WBO mandatory, irrespective of what you think about him.

Yeah but he has a fraction of Fury’s fans and holds no belts so mandatory (paperwork) or not, he’s not even close to the fight people want to see.

In the background it is really about Haymon vs Hearn and Haymon will win every time. You’ll get your Usyk fight at some point because Haymon will hold up the unification until he is 100% convinced AJ has no chance of picking up the belts. Haymon does not want Hearn holding those belts hostage, he has a big stable of HW’s and a network in Europe that could shut out the US for years.

[kafkod]

Please stop trolling. I never said Hearn could force Joshua to vacate. I never said vacating didn't benefit Joshua. If Joshua is definitely fighting Usyk after Pulev, Joshua vs. Usyk is a bigger fight as a unification instead of a mandatory defense. If there's no rematch clause vs. Pulev, Joshua benefits from Matchroom still having an in house title, as opposed to all four belts being out of Matchroom control.




Joshua and Whyte couldn't agree on the financial split in the rematch in the event Whyte won the first fight. Hearn can't force Joshua to fight anybody. He can only block him from fighting people.





Yes he is. Matchroom has Joshua under an exclusive promotional agreement. Joshua works for Matchroom, Matchroom doesn't work for Joshua. The manager works for the fighter. The fighter works for the promoter. That is how boxing has worked for a long long time. A lot of PBC fighters are self promoted, hiring an outside promoter to assist them on a fight by fight basis, but Joshua has the more traditional set up for his career.

PBC fighters are self promoted .. yeah, like Jermall Charlo, who bragged about being his own promoter, then confirmed he'd had an offer from Hearn and said he'd "forward it straight to Al, command HQ" and been told not to respond.

Hearn doesn't have that kind of master/slave relationship with his fighters.

He and AJ have a mutually agreed business arrangement. You could as well say that Eddie is contracted to AJBXNG Group - AJ's management and promotion company - as AJ is contracted to Matchroom.

[kafkod]

Yeah but he has a fraction of Fury’s fans and holds no belts so mandatory (paperwork) or not, he’s not even close to the fight people want to see.

In the background it is really about Haymon vs Hearn and Haymon will win every time. You’ll get your Usyk fight at some point because Haymon will hold up the unification until he is 100% convinced AJ has no chance of picking up the belts. Haymon does not want Hearn holding those belts hostage, he has a big stable of HW’s and a network in Europe that could shut out the US for years.

Shit .. you people really have lost all touch with reality.