The Special Shakes point is not moot because Ariza is working with Floyd

[FrankieBruno]

hired him after rios tested positive.....

hired the guy who he accused of supplying illegal peds to manny pacquaio

the hypocrisy is evident

Hypocrisy of Floyd fanboys aside

Are you implying Pac was guilty and Floyd was right all along?

[KevinHenry007]

If Floyd moves up to 160 and KO's GGG in 3 rounds, sure you can say he's juicing.

If Floyd even moves up to 154 and KO's James Kirkland, Demetrius Andrade or Jermell Charlo in 2 rounds, sure you can say he's juicing because that would be the equivalent to what Manny Pacquiao was doing in 08-09.

'Til then, you guys have no grounds to make such accusations.

[KevinHenry007]

Performance Performance Performance. That's what it's all about people.

Team Mayweather made such accusations against Pac in 08/09 for the following reasons:

1. He blew Ricky Hatton out the water in 2 rounds in a weight Ricky has never lost at. A weight where he stopped the legendary Kosta Tzyu.

2. He blew Miguel Cotto out the water and dropped him twice all the while being an indestructable terminator.

3. REFUSED RANDOM DRUG TESTING and made all sorts of stipulations.

Until Mayweather mirrors these actions and KO's a top 5 JMW or top 5 MW, or even starts making stipulations on random drug testing, there is no comparison. Alex Ariza or not, there is no comparison unless Mayweather's performance and KO power all of a sudden dramatically rises.

[Free Booty Dew!]

If Floyd moves up to 160 and KO's GGG in 3 rounds, sure you can say he's juicing.

If Floyd even moves up to 154 and KO's James Kirkland, Demetrius Andrade or Jermell Charlo in 2 rounds, sure you can say he's juicing because that would be the equivalent to what Manny Pacquiao was doing in 08-09.

'Til then, you guys have no grounds to make such accusations.

Floyd's been through more weight classes than Pac.

[KevinHenry007]

Floyd's been through more weight classes than Pac.

No he hasn't. Manny started at 106 and Floyd started at 130. Both have won titles at 154. How did you come to such conclusion?

Again, until Floyd starts KO'ing guys like GGG, Andrade, Kirkland, Charlo ect in 2 rounds, there really is no comparison. Until Floyd starts throwing 100 punches in a round all the while turning himself into some come forward hard hitting terminator with dazzling speed, there is no comparison; Alex Ariza or not.

Until Floyd puts stipulations on drug testing, there's really no comparison here.

[Slick Veteran]

If Mayweather start absorbing shots and throwing a 1000 punches, then can't really say if he getting the Pacquiao special. Mayweather doesn't need PEDs for stamina or toughness, more so for his hands if anything.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Why are people somehow coming to the conclusion that the Ariza "special shakes" point is moot/voided because Ariza is now working with Mayweather?

Ariza supplied Pac with "special shakes" that even Freddy Roach, Pac's own trainer, said was shady. Keep in mind, this was during a time when Pac was indestructible and crushing all competition.

Just because it's 2014 and Ariza hasn't supplied his special shakes in over 6 years, that still doesn't take away the fact that he was doing some shady stuff with Pac-- just ask Freddy Roach.

He's also done some shady stuff in the 12 round of Maidana/Broner.

Just because he's working with Floyd, that doesn't erase history. All this means is we'll have to watch Ariza the same as we watched him in the past and if he does anything shady, call him and Floyd out collectively.

How the Fck do you know he hasnt made any shakes in 6 years..

LMAO, Ariza is a cheater, cheated with manny, garcia camp, and now floyd..
Floyd is juicing...... You have to be a complete idiot not to think he isnt..

Why else would Floyd bring a dude like that into camp??????????

[KevinHenry007]

How the Fck do you know he hasnt made any shakes in 6 years..

LMAO, Ariza is a cheater, cheated with manny, garcia camp, and now floyd..
Floyd is juicing...... You have to be a complete idiot not to think he isnt..

Why else would Floyd bring a dude like that into camp??????????

Floyd is juicing because he couldn't put a dent in Marcos Maidana's chin?

Maidana even said "FLOYD'S PUNCHES TICKLE".

He couldn't even bust Maidana's lip. How the fcuk is he juicing?

He's the same powerless puncher he's been at 147 for years that relies solely on speed, accuracy, reflexes and defense.

Pac took 15 years off Ricky Hatton's LIFE.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

OP face it, your POS hero Mayweather has no integrity.

pretty much this


but leave him be, Weeb...i like watching the damage control...this one is what we call 'misdirection'


i find it funny

[KevinHenry007]

pretty much this


but leave him be, Weeb...i like watching the damage control...this one is what we call 'misdirection'


i find it funny

Thanks for disputing anything I've said in this thread. Your post is simply wasting space.