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the klitschko "just size" myth exposed
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if wlad was 6'3 and his abilities were all the same than Haye would have wooped him. That being said if the logical thing happened and he was smaller, he would be faster and more agile therefore losing out on size and reach and gaining speed and agility. How that would have stacked up against Haye i don't know. The Klitschko for their size are very athelitic, and thats why they suceed were valuev, long etc fail. So yes there size and reach is a huge factor in them being so dominant, but it also affects their speed and athelitism. They have developed a style for their abilities and nothing should be made of that, if he wants to sit behind his jab, than do so. God gave them size, so let them use. One thing i can't stand tho is clinching part of their game, whenever fighters get inside they employ the clinch and in boxing your only allowed to do if your tired not if someone gets inside. Lewis was guilty of this too.
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Originally posted by No1 View PostAre you serious? They are genetic freaks of men. Both are gifted for fighting, wlad is the superb boxer who uses all the gifts he has to fight in a style other than getting caugh cold is nigh on impossible to beat and vitali is just a born fighter, he enjoys fighting and hurting people similar to tyson. Vitali may look very very very robotic but he has the highest KO % of any HW in history and i believe the only HW champ never to have been knocked down let alone knocked out. I think that is pretty gifted to be honest?Last edited by kiDynamite92; 07-05-2011, 04:53 AM.
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Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Postif wlad was 6'3 and his abilities were all the same than Haye would have wooped him. That being said if the logical thing happened and he was smaller, he would be faster and more agile therefore losing out on size and reach and gaining speed and agility. How that would have stacked up against Haye i don't know. The Klitschko for their size are very athelitic, and thats why they suceed were valuev, long etc fail. So yes there size and reach is a huge factor in them being so dominant, but it also affects their speed and athelitism. They have developed a style for their abilities and nothing should be made of that, if he wants to sit behind his jab, than do so. God gave them size, so let them use. One thing i can't stand tho is clinching part of their game, whenever fighters get inside they employ the clinch and in boxing your only allowed to do if your tired not if someone gets inside. Lewis was guilty of this too.
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Haye definatley under-estimated the speed of Wlad, especially the speed of his jab. Though it was clear the reach difference was the reason Haye found it so hard to get to Wlad so i'd still say the size was the biggest issue in that fight.
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Originally posted by Joe2608 View PostHaye definatley under-estimated the speed of Wlad, especially the speed of his jab. Though it was clear the reach difference was the reason Haye found it so hard to get to Wlad so i'd still say the size was the biggest issue in that fight.
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Originally posted by Ugh! View Posthow'd you figure that? would roy jones be faster if he was smaller?
You have the same engine and driver with a smaller, lighter chassis it goes faster.
Remove a few vertebrae and the muscle and tissue that goes with it..assume the intelligence remains the same and yeah its faster than the heaviest one.
Of course if you're talking about actually losing weight with the same frame thats a different matter altogether.Last edited by DET. IRONSIDE; 07-05-2011, 06:11 AM.
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