Originally posted by bigjavi973
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I've only seen two clips of Schwarz fights & he's falling down in both of them. Not official KD's or anything, but this mfer don't seem to have great balance.
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
One CANNOT be a lineal champion with no belt either bc he then is not defending the lineage of the label given to him.Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
this has to be one of the dumbest shits I've read on NSB.
Back in the days when there was only one universally recognised champion, lineage only mattered to historians and scholars who wanted to look back and see who held that title in previous eras.
Then after the arrival of multiple sanctioning bodies, each recognising different champions, lineage became important as a means for fans and reporters to decide which one of those multiple sanctioned title holders was the champion - the man who beat the man, etc.
Looked at that way, which is how I look at it, the idea of a lineal title which is separate from all of the sanctioned titles makes no sense.
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Bob Arum told me that Schwarz was a better opponent than Andy Ruiz so I expect the German to knock out Fury in 5-6 rounds.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostBig Fury fan here, but I have to agree with what juggernaut666 says there.
Back in the days when there was only one universally recognised champion, lineage only mattered to historians and scholars who wanted to look back and see who held that title in previous eras.
Then after the arrival of multiple sanctioning bodies, each recognising different champions, lineage became important as a means for fans and reporters to decide which one of those multiple sanctioned title holders was the champion - the man who beat the man, etc.
Looked at that way, which is how I look at it, the idea of a lineal title which is separate from all of the sanctioned titles makes no sense.
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Originally posted by kafkod View PostBig Fury fan here, but I have to agree with what juggernaut666 says there.
Back in the days when there was only one universally recognised champion, lineage only mattered to historians and scholars who wanted to look back and see who held that title in previous eras.
Then after the arrival of multiple sanctioning bodies, each recognising different champions, lineage became important as a means for fans and reporters to decide which one of those multiple sanctioned title holders was the champion - the man who beat the man, etc.
Looked at that way, which is how I look at it, the idea of a lineal title which is separate from all of the sanctioned titles makes no sense.
honestly whoever defeats the other should be inleal wheather it be Wilder/Fury or AJ/Ruiz .
but someone NEEDs to hold a belt to claim lineal status. I know its not really wilder and wont be Ruiz before yrs end ,so ?
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Originally posted by juggernaut666 View PostI take it back theres ONE reasonable fury fan.
honestly whoever defeats the other should be inleal wheather it be Wilder/Fury or AJ/Ruiz .
but someone NEEDs to hold a belt to claim lineal status. I know its not really wilder and wont be Ruiz before yrs end ,so ?
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