Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Feels Wilder Should Not Do Trilogy, Explains Why

[Skinny kinny]

Ward loves to talk about Wilder but at the same time we know he is talking about Kovalev. He is super salty that Kovalev gave him an L the first fight.

? Didn’t ward win both fights. He somehow got all the money after the second fight KO and retired

[NYG]

Picking on the guy who just lost is the easiest thing in the world.

I'm not going to take a defeatist attitude. If Wilder wants to continue fighting, I support him. I want to see how he comes back from his first knockout loss. If he loses again, there's no shame in that. But let's give the man a chance just as we've given past champions the chance at redemption.

He doesn't deserve a chance against Fury. He got beat in every aspect of boxing and the fight wasn't competitive and now he's making a million excuses. The fact you even want to give him a chance shows how low you are as a human being. Wilder is a excuse making coward who hates the fact he got destroyed by a white guy. That's the real truth. Maybe, if Wilder didn't think he was fighting for his "people" and used his brain for once, he might have had a better night. But he's incapable of using his brain, he's a big dumbass. The way he talks, fights, all he can do is punch and Fury took care of him with no problem. **** Wilder

[Grange_27]

Not get hit on the ear

He was losing in every facet of the fight before being hit on the ear. Unlike the AJ Ruiz fight where it turned it round with that punch was all Fury from the opening bell. Not going to change either

[_Maxi]

? Didn’t ward win both fights. He somehow got all the money after the second fight KO and retired

Ward Lost the first fight except for the three judges and himself and maybe his family.

[Skinny kinny]

Ward is correct with a lot of what he’s saying but a lot of people are saying the same thing. Ward is a very skillful speaker for a boxer and he is capable of saying some very nasty things about you in an eloquent way so most people won’t realize how nasty what he is actually saying is.

Ward begins by talking about boxing issues and then talks camp and team issues. Very respectful statements even if they are critical statements.

He states his piece about the boxing issues but by the end of article it switches to Ward’s personal distaste for Wilder.
He quietly suggests that wilder won’t take the fight because he’s basically a coward but if he takes the fight he’s a broken bully anyway ( bullies are cowards is the general belief) so he is essentially still a coward.
Ward made a comment after the first fight that wilder would run away and be a coward and not fight fury. ( he later backed off the statements after some pressure)

Many retired great fighters criticize and dislike wilder as a fighter (especially skilled boxers) but most of them don’t go into the personal and manhood criticism that ward does. Although most of those boxers aren’t such smooth speakers.
This will hit the public some people will complain and ward will claim he meant no harm and he’s been misinterpreted.

Such a smooth speaker who rarely misspeaks. Misinterpreted again about the same guy on the same issue. Hmmmmm. Not a mistake.

Wonder what their (wilder and ward) true issues are. Perfect timing for UK fans to pile on with him and ward can get maximum salt into the fresh wounds

[MrRolltide91]

He makes good point

[Monty Fisto]

I'm not sure about a blueprint to beat Wilder. An opponent still needs to be perfect or near perfect to avoid that punch for 12 rounds and not every opponent is going to be a 6'9 fighter that physically can absorb or avoid that huge right hand. But Wilder needs to fire some people, work on whatever fundamentals a fighter his age can work on, and fight 2-3 other guys who are not very illusive and then do whatever he has the burning desire to do if that includes a rematch with Fury. But I think in a 3rd fight Fury might even change up so more and fight in a style somewhere between the first and second fights and win a decision or late stoppage.

You don't need to avoid that punch for 12 rounds if you can stress him aerobically within 3 or 4 rounds to the extent that he can barely stand up.

[Monty Fisto]

Ward is correct with a lot of what he’s saying but a lot of people are saying the same thing. Ward is a very skillful speaker for a boxer and he is capable of saying some very nasty things about you in an eloquent way so most people won’t realize how nasty what he is actually saying is.

Ward begins by talking about boxing issues and then talks camp and team issues. Very respectful statements even if they are critical statements.

He states his piece about the boxing issues but by the end of article it switches to Ward’s personal distaste for Wilder.
He quietly suggests that wilder won’t take the fight because he’s basically a coward but if he takes the fight he’s a broken bully anyway ( bullies are cowards is the general belief) so he is essentially still a coward.
Ward made a comment after the first fight that wilder would run away and be a coward and not fight fury. ( he later backed off the statements after some pressure)

Many retired great fighters criticize and dislike wilder as a fighter (especially skilled boxers) but most of them don’t go into the personal and manhood criticism that ward does. Although most of those boxers aren’t such smooth speakers.
This will hit the public some people will complain and ward will claim he meant no harm and he’s been misinterpreted.

Such a smooth speaker who rarely misspeaks. Misinterpreted again about the same guy on the same issue. Hmmmmm. Not a mistake.

Wonder what their (wilder and ward) true issues are. Perfect timing for UK fans to pile on with him and ward can get maximum salt into the fresh wounds

Saying that getting beat up and outclassed is psychologically more damaging than getting caught cold with a single shot is fair comment.

Saying a member of his own team thought he was going to get knocked out cold is also patently true, or else why throw in the towel? They didn't think he was going to turn the fight around; they didn't think he was going to be outpointed; they thought he was going to get properly hurt (more than he already was).

That Wilder doesn't like that is already evident from his quotes saying he needs to straighten things out with Mark Breland.

[them_apples]

Other guys might beat Wilder too. We don't know if Wilder is that good he hasn't fought anyone outside of Fury, who just wooped his ass.

We don't know if he could beat an Andy Ruiz, I could see Ruiz hammering Wilder in a terrible way tbh.

[TheWinners]

He was losing in every facet of the fight before being hit on the ear. Unlike the AJ Ruiz fight where it turned it round with that punch was all Fury from the opening bell. Not going to change either

He was in both Ortiz fights too. Joshua Ruiz helps my argument. It was all Joshua then Ruiz caught him. It's the HW division. It only takes 1. Fury was the one who landed that 1. Usually when Wilder lands that 1 it's murder she wrote. Wilder is a knockout artist. And he's pretty good at it. He doesn't have to outbox anyone like every fight is going to the scorecards. He fights for the KO. That keeps him marketable as well. The fact that you can outbox him and make 1 mistake and be sent to the canvas. He was even having problems with Gerald Washington. Come on man. He does need to improve his poor technical defensive skills. All he needs to do is avoid being hit and look for the right hand. He needs a change to build on what he has. And that's reach, power, and a lot of heart.