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Pernell Whitaker was probably overrated
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostIs Porter a better pressure fighter than Chavez?
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Pernell Whitaker is one of my all time favorite fighters so I'm probably biased here. There's no doubt in my mind he beat Chavez and got robbed. He should've got the decision against Oscar but I understand the politics of boxing. He was over the hill when he lost to Trinidad. Even if I agreed with everything the OP said, (minus the last paragraph) there is no way you can call him overrated.
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Pernell was a fan friendly, old school throwback fighter who gave the boxing fans the fights that they wanted to see whenever they demanded to see it.
Moreover, he would fight anyone, anytime at anyplace. However, the very same cannot be said about May. He only fought opponents on his terms.
Therefore, there is no comparison between those two.
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Originally posted by BigZ44 View PostThese are your opinions, I don't remember what I scored ODLH/Sweet Pea, but I had it close. Sweet Pea clearly beat JCC and I loved Chavez. Pretty sure most people will agree with me on this one, there's no way that fight should have been a draw.
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Originally posted by Sheldon312 View PostLet's get one thing clear, Pernell is one of the top ten most skilled boxers of all time. The guy was great at fighting in the pocket, his hand was beautiful, his foot work was as smooth as a preacher's sheets, and his defense was second to none I'm. But, looking back at his resume, you will see that he has no real great names on his resume. He got outboxed by Oscar, he couldn't finish Chavez, and he list to Tito. Now, some may argue that he was out of his prime against Oscar and Tito but that is an Excuse. Pernell couldn't adjust to the speed, power, and skill of Oscar and he couldn't handle the constant pressure Tito was bringing to him. Yes, people say that he schooled Chavez but after rewatching the fight, it isn't as clear as many people make it out to be. There are those who say that Pernell is superior to Floyd but I just don't agree. I don't see a 30 to 34 year old Floyd losing to the Chavez, Tito, or Oscar that Pernell fought. Well, Oscar would probably be 50/50 or 60/40 favoring Oscar due to styles but he would've embarrassed Tito and Chavez with ease. For all the flack guys like Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather get for not fighting top competition, one thing is for sure, they both have a better resume than Pernell. I could drop Floyd in any era and he would be a top 5 fighter in any Era. Hell, I think he would be undisputed at 140 and 147 if he was in his prime today, but nothing Pernell did in his career can convince me that he would beat the likes of Thurman, Porter, Mikey, Crawford, Danny, and Brook. Discuss?
Everybody avoided him until he got old. He lost fights at a higher weight when he got older and with cocaine problems.
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Originally posted by Sheldon312 View PostDue to size disparities and lack of noticeable wins on resume. Pernell was not a big welter and as we all know size matters. There's a reason why skilled fighters like Duran and Wildred got KO in their careers.
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