Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-18-2015, 11:06 PM #11
Willy Wanker Willy Wanker is offline
We Wuz Changz
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Chasing greatness
Age: 70
Posts: 10,754
Quoted: 4062 Post(s)
Rep Power: 51
Willy Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond reputeWilly Wanker has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,000,142,801.41
Bank: 4,980,829,297,709,504,528,384.00
Total Points: 4,980,829,297,809,505,124,352.00
No Message - Willy Wanker No Message - Willy Wanker No Message - Willy Wanker No Message - Willy Wanker here's another one to help the cause - -jose- 
lol - -jose- Merry Christmas - TBear Lounge ATG - Mike D From Brandi with Love! - BoxingFan85 Just because. - DionysusX 
my ni gga - STAX ON DECK Looking forward to the fight man ? Who you rooting for ? - ScottWeiland happy father's day (in the event your creampie was loaded, lol) - DionysusX The Autozone comment had me rolling. Haha. Cheers - anthonydavid11 Camacho avi :love: that's one sexy Rican - -jose- 
Lana was sent from above - Santa_ -jose- aka Colonel Culo Snatcher :lol1::lol1: - -jose- alt account and serial racist member. - Shaolin Sword WAR COTTO! one last time :beerchug: - -jose- Love your funny posts - 1bad65 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tha_Greatest 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crold1 View Post
Marciano was undefeated AND untied. That's the slight but legit difference between he and others who finished with no losses but a draw or draws.

Like the difference between a perfect game and a no hitter.
I agree with this. Finito is undefeated technically, but a draw is still a disputed result.

Not a perfect record like Marciano or Floyd's.
Willy Wanker is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 09-18-2015, 11:08 PM #12
.!WAR MIKEY! .!WAR MIKEY! is online now
~HATERS GONNA HATE!~
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 14,658
Quoted: 7259 Post(s)
Rep Power: 37
.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute.!WAR MIKEY! has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 48,635,745,438,650,810,368.00
Bank: 3,126,846,073,339,808,579,584.00
Total Points: 3,175,481,818,778,459,176,960.00
No Message - -jose- Happy Holidays bro - KOVALBOXER Boss Hogg Cartel - LoadedWraps bad ass sig and avi..... - Santa_ For Kovalev &amp; Rocky 4 - BKM- 
WAR KILLER KOV!! - Dean_Razorback lol good one! :beerchug: - -jose- uno cerveza - Omowale Tribe Hahaha, good stuff. - Santa_ welcome back vato loco - Tago Nang Tago 
:beerchug: - -jose- No Message - -jose- :beerchug: - -jose- Love your hilarious posts. Keep it up. - 1bad65 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
He fought a guy with 28 losses in his 33rd fight as a pro and fought several guys with a handful of fights after that lol.
= baldomir lol
.!WAR MIKEY! is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 11:08 PM #13
crold1 crold1 is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,104
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Rep Power: 27
crold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 110,229,866.80
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 110,229,866.80
I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral to one of the greats - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Willy Wanker View Post
I agree with this. Finito is undefeated technically, but a draw is still a disputed result.
And Floyd's 49 is eons better than Lopez's 51. Look at who beat who and who accomplished what. People criticize Floyd's opp but while Lopez was settling old matters with former Straws at 108, Floyd was beating Canelo. Imagine if Floyd had that many title defenses against guys with 10-15 pro fights? Lopez was a great fighter but it's not even close in favor of Floyd.
crold1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 11:36 PM #14
Pigeons Pigeons is online now
Who gayer than Kanyon?
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 9,258
Quoted: 3474 Post(s)
Rep Power: 31
Pigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,000,000,084,946.25
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,000,000,084,946.25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crold1 View Post
Marciano was undefeated AND untied. That's the slight but legit difference between he and others who finished with no losses but a draw or draws.

Like the difference between a perfect game and a no hitter.
Cliff Rold dropping some truth bombs.
Pigeons is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 11:36 PM #15
killakali killakali is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kalifornia
Posts: 2,505
Quoted: 1258 Post(s)
Rep Power: 15
killakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond reputekillakali has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,000,000,111,189.23
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 100,000,000,111,189.23
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott9945 View Post
A draw is different than a no contest. A draw means that scorecards were read and that the fight was even. A no contest could mean almost anything.
Not always true. In Cali a fight stopped before 4 rds for headbutt, cut by accident etc gets turned into a draw. That's why Saul Rodriguez had a draw
killakali is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 11:41 PM #16
Pigeons Pigeons is online now
Who gayer than Kanyon?
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 9,258
Quoted: 3474 Post(s)
Rep Power: 31
Pigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond reputePigeons has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,000,000,084,946.25
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,000,000,084,946.25
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PBP. View Post
He doesn't tho

Jimmy Barry was 58-0-10

[Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]


But it's "perfect record" not "undefeated record" basically
Quoted for truth.

Longest winning streak (according to Nigel Collins): 97, Packey McFarland
[Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]

Most wins without a loss: 59, Jimmy Barry
[Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]

Most wins without a loss, draw, or no contest: 49, Mayweather and Marciano
Pigeons is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2015, 11:42 PM #17
Death_Adder Death_Adder is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,324
Quoted: 1177 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0
Death_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond reputeDeath_Adder has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,000,056,447.57
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,000,056,447.57
I heard you got robbed by some black folk on the freeway off ramp trying to sell your roses. Here's another one for you amigo. - The Tribe Here's a banana, now dance for me boy - Death_Adder No Message - Death_Adder 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crold1 View Post
And Floyd's 49 is eons better than Lopez's 51. Look at who beat who and who accomplished what. People criticize Floyd's opp but while Lopez was settling old matters with former Straws at 108, Floyd was beating Canelo. Imagine if Floyd had that many title defenses against guys with 10-15 pro fights? Lopez was a great fighter but it's not even close in favor of Floyd.
Fraud fought guys that were old, injured and weight drained, with pillow gloves, hand picked judges with scorecards already filled o out before the fight started, and had the NSAC in his back pocket. Not to mention that he was on PEDs for who knows how long. And to top it all off he fought with his defensive first style that he bored people and that's how he would get his wins.

Speaking of wins, he has 45 of them

Castillo - Loss
Judah - DQ loss
De la Hoya - Loss
Maidana - Loss
Death_Adder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 12:08 AM #18
Scott9945 Scott9945 is offline
Gonna be more suspicious
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 22,220
Quoted: 343 Post(s)
Rep Power: 89
Scott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond reputeScott9945 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 11,280,051,422,123.10
Bank: 511,183,695,646,953,984.00
Total Points: 511,194,975,698,376,128.00
not sure if u drink beer so i bought u a pepsi - writeright you're ok with me too bro - Left Hook Tua a bribe for free porn. lol - Left Hook Tua Cheers - T-97 Meant to send this to you earlier but sent to myself by mistake lol. Cheers - joseph5620 
First round on me - mrpain81 8K Posts - T-97 You're killing them in the political debates! lol. - joseph5620 Cheers amigo - anonymousboxing Have a tuna melt homey - mangler 
for being a heavyweight in history section - led top poster - JAB5239 Great poster. - Barnburner Yes lets ban the troll - McGoorty In honor of Joe Frazier - Terry A 
Merry Christmas - The Surgeon good poster - jazluvr thanks for the swift e-points payment - jas one of the great posters in the history forum - jas for a year of quality posts in 2014 - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by killakali View Post
Not always true. In Cali a fight stopped before 4 rds for headbutt, cut by accident etc gets turned into a draw. That's why Saul Rodriguez had a draw
Yeah, I think they call it a "technical draw" in California. But to me the word draw implies even and shouldn't be used instead of no contest.
Scott9945 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 12:09 AM #19
crold1 crold1 is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,104
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Rep Power: 27
crold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 110,229,866.80
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 110,229,866.80
I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral to one of the greats - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Death_Adder View Post
Fraud fought guys that were old, injured and weight drained, with pillow gloves, hand picked judges with scorecards already filled o out before the fight started, and had the NSAC in his back pocket. Not to mention that he was on PEDs for who knows how long. And to top it all off he fought with his defensive first style that he bored people and that's how he would get his wins.

Speaking of wins, he has 45 of them

Castillo - Loss
Judah - DQ loss
De la Hoya - Loss
Maidana - Loss
I scored Castillo I for Castillo. By a point. Final scores were too wide. Close either way would have been fair. If you think he lost to Oscar, well, he didn't. Didn't lose to Maidana either (though I'd have been fine with a draw). Heard the Judah case. Didn't happen. Nothing in the ring suggested a loss.

By the same token, Lopez probably loses Alvarez I anywhere but Mexico on the Chavez-Gonzalez undercard. The cuts were much worse in the rematch and the fight went on.

Dislike Floyd all you want (and there are plenty of fighters to rate ahead of him all time). But you don't do anything to make a case FOR Lopez. That's just blind loathing.
crold1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2015, 12:14 AM #20
Bigg Rigg Bigg Rigg is offline
The People's Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NYC
Posts: 11,254
Quoted: 615 Post(s)
Rep Power: 29
Bigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond reputeBigg Rigg has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,087,800,130,186.44
Bank: 359,509,991.83
Total Points: 1,088,159,640,178.27
you need more gifts, have a beer - sugarsmosley No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg 
No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg No Message - Bigg Rigg 
You have smelly farts - Pigeons I'm sorry, But I have to do this. War B-Hop. Bernard Hopkins is like Wine, He gets better with Age. - BrushMyHair No Message - KOVALBOXER 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Noose View Post
Im a fan of Lopez, but that 'draw' should of been a TKO L.

His corner basically thought Lopez was ahead on the scorecards and said "no more" after Lopez was accidently cut. The doctor didnt really take a look and decide to stop the fight. His corner pulled him out. Lopez was up and ready to continue. But Nacho stopped it.
Good job bro, nice work!! I was just about to look up the "draw" myself and make a better assessment because I wasn't aware of how it all played out.
Bigg Rigg is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
agree, finito, lopez, owns, record?

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.