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he is back in the streets and on youtube
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do you think your username (and ffs your avatar) was any better??Originally posted by goblin View Post
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last i read he was in talks with strike force an wanted about the same ammount elitexc was paying him, and also Bas Rutten has given up training him.Comment
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http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/02/10/b...raining-kimbo/Originally posted by Blair_Wells#32 View Post
I know you've worked closely with Kimbo Slice. When do you think we'll see Kimbo fight again, and will you be in his corner again when he does?
I stopped training Kimbo. I had him six weeks before the last fight (a loss to Seth Petruzelli on October 4), I talked to him about certain things that I didn't like, and he promised never to do it again, and then he started doing it again. If people come to me and ask me to train them, I want them to do what I tell them to do, because that's what they came for. ... Once you start doing different things, you're out. It's not because he got knocked out. This was already in progress long before the fight.
So you basically don't think Kimbo was preparing the right way?
I would rather just leave it like this: Let's say that the Kimbo who came to me at the beginning of training, that wasn't the Kimbo who was at my gym the last time. Six weeks before his last fight, I told him, I want that Kimbo back. Otherwise, you're out. And you know, he started doing differently again. Let's just leave it like that. I don't want to go into all the details. I wish him nothing but the best. Really, I really do.
When was the last time you talked to Kimbo?
After the fight. After the fight I didn't talk to him anymore. It was pretty obvious -- that was the last time. The fight was the last time.
So you don't have a relationship with him anymore, either personally or professionally?
I do with Mike, and I really like Mike, his manager. I'd like to have a manager like that when I was fighting. So I don't want to -- for me, once something is broke, I can't go back. People say, "Bas Rutten only did this for the money." I lost money. I lost money training Kimbo because I had to say no to commentating jobs. ... I trained him together with another guy, because I didn't have time to train him so much, so I gave him half and half. I trained the guy for several weeks for $5,000. That's not big money. So I lost money doing that because I had to say no to commentating jobs.
But it's not about the money. People could say, "Hey, we'll pay you a million dollars." I'm not going to do it. Once I've made my decision, I'm very hard to change.
Do you have an opinion of how good a fighter Kimbo could be?
When Kimbo came in and did everything, he had huge potential. I said that in interviews. He was doing good, he did everything. He was doing good. He was doing really good. But he started to change. If he would have kept on training like he did in the beginning, yeah, I saw a really good future for him.Comment
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Does anyone have any clue what he did wrong? wowComment
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i honestly wanted to see kimbo go farther then he did because i felt alot of the hate that he had geared towards him was kind of ridiculous. Obviously he was not about to become UFC champion but it did seem like he was training hard and i respect that win or lose it seemed like he was giving his all into the fight game and alot of people who have never trained a day in there life discredited him every chance they got...
with that being said, i think he blew his chance... Without Bas i dont know whats next for him.Comment
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He deserved the hate, their was guys that had been fighting in mma for many years and still are, who dont get the attention or make the kind of money kimbo has, he was a street thug beating up bouncers in his back garden, how the hell can you go from that, to being the main event on mma cards and making **** loads of money.Originally posted by th4l3pr3ch4un View Post
Plus he was fed weak fighters, and when he knocked them out his fans started blowing his trumpet running their mouths saying he was going to be the next big thing in mma, when people knew he was nothing but a street bum who was going to be knocked out when he stepped up.Comment
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Out of interest how much roughly was Slice getting paid? Everyone keeps going on about how much it was . . . .
For comparison a few reccent events (these are some of the cream of the MMA's fighter wages);
It makes for very interesting reading!
Affliction Day of Reckoning;
Fedor Emelianenko -- $300,000 (no win bonus listed) def. Andrei Arlovski -- $1,500,000
Josh Barnett -- $500,000 (no win bonus listed) def. Gilbert Yvel –- $30,000
Vitor Belfort -- $200,000 (including $80,000 bonus) def. Matt Lindland –- Not listed (MMAWeekly.com reported as $225,000)
Renato “Babalu” Sobral -- $90,000 (including $30,000 bonus) def. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou -- $50,000
Dan Lauzon -- $23,160 (including $11,160 bonus) def. Bobby Green -- $4,000
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira -- $150,000 (including $30,000 bonus) def. Vladimir Matyushenko -- $50,000
Paul Buentello -- $90,000 (including $20,000 bonus) def. Kiril Sidelnikov -- $10,000
UFC 91;
Brock Lesnar: $450,000 (includes $200,000 win bonus) def. Randy Couture: $250,000
Kenny Florian: $80,000 ($40,000 win bonus) def. Joe Stevenson: $35,000
Dustin Hazelett: $28,000 ($14,000 win bonus) def. Tamdan McCrory: $10,000
Gabriel Gonzaga: $110,000 ($55,000 win bonus) def. Josh Hendricks: $8,000
Demian Maia: $40,000 ($20,000 win bonus) def. Nate Quarry: $25,000
Aaron Riley: $8,000 ($4,000 win bonus) def. Jorge Gurgel: $10,000
Jeremy Stephens: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus) def. Rafael dos Anjos: $4,000
Mark Bocek: $18,000 ($9,000 win bonus) def. Alvin Robinson: $7,000
Matt Brown $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus) def. Ryan Thomas: $3,000
UFC Ultimate 2008
Rashad Evans: $130,000 (includes $65,000 win bonus) def. Forrest Griffin: $100,000[11]
Frank Mir: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus) def. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira: $250,000
Quinton Jackson: $325,000 (includes $100,000 win bonus) def. Wanderlei Silva: $200,000
C.B. Dollaway: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus) def. Mike Massenzio: $5,000
Cheick Kongo: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus) def: Mostapha Al Turk: $7,000
Yushin Okami: $32,000 (includes $16,000 win bonus) def. Dean Lister: $19,000
Antoni Hardonk: $28,000 (includes $14,000 win bonus) def. Mike Wessel: $4,000
Matt Hamill: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus) def. Reese Andy: $15,000
Brad Blackburn: $14,000 (includes $7,000 win bonus) vs. Ryo Chonan: $18,000
Patrick Barry: $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus) Dan Evensen: $4,000Comment
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I am actually shocked that he hasnt popped up in the WWE or TNA.Comment
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