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Old 07-01-2020, 04:01 AM #1
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Default Good and Bad Boxers to watch and learn from

Most guys who are new to boxing like to emulate their favorite fighters in the ring. But while some boxers have styles that are good for beginners to learn from, other boxers have styles that will likely get you KTFO if you try to emulate them. IMO:

Good boxers to learn from:
Oscar, Cotto, Marquez, Winky, Mikey/Danny Garcia, GGG, Holyfield, Joe Louis, etc.
These fighters do not necessarily have extraordinary physical gifts, but instead they rely on their rock solid fundamentals- good jabs, combinations, bodywork, high guards, good balance, good pacing, etc, to win fights. All qualities that are crucial for new boxers to learn. They also have relatively simple styles that are easy for new boxers to understand and employ.

Bad boxers to learn from:
Roy Jones Jr, Ali, Vitali, Hamed, Martinez, Pacquiao, Tyson, David Haye, Wilder, etc.
These fighters may have been extraordinary, but they are horrible for newbies to learn from. They mostly relied on their insane physical gifts to excel, such as crazy reflexes, speed, athleticism, or power. As a result, they tended to do extremely unorthodox things in the ring such as having their hands down, or leaping in and out with power shots. A new fighter trying to emulate this is going to get KTFO because he likely won't have the same physical gifts as the above fighters.

Somewhere in between:
Mayweather, Sweet Pea, Pep, Toney, Hopkins, Ward, Loma, Rigo, Crawford, etc.
These defensive technicians may seem like they would be good to learn from. But in reality, their skills may be too advanced for the average boxer to learn. A beginner trying to shoulder roll or pot-shot without knowing why and when to do these things is going to look a fool. A beginner will also likely be confused by Lomachenko's footwork or Crawford's switch-hitting. It may be better to stick to the basics.

I'm sure I left a lot of fighters out, but these are just the ones off the top of my head.

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Old 07-01-2020, 04:29 AM #2
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James Toney, Marquez, Clottey

Bad: Any boxer doing too much advanced unorthodox moves.

Marcos Maidana, Hamed, Jones Jr
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James Toney, Marquez, Clottey

Bad: Any boxer doing too much advanced unorthodox moves.

Marcos Maidana, Hamed, Jones Jr
I used to try and practice Jonesí and Hamedís moves as a kid. I remember trying to switch southpaw and throw a leaping left in sparring and my mate put me on my ass with a counter jab. So I completely agree...
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defensive/counterpunching: james toney, mayweather jr, sweet pea

pressure: JCC, henry armstrong, duran

boxer-mover: muhammad ali, ricardo lopez, SRL
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I used to try and practice Jonesí and Hamedís moves as a kid. I remember trying to switch southpaw and throw a leaping left in sparring and my mate put me on my ass with a counter jab. So I completely agree...
Lmao...... I copied Floyds shoulder roll which i can use vs low ranked guys or street fighters.. But vs decent boxers i would never. The most i would do is use the shoulder pull back counter... But not the guard
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Lmao...... I copied Floyds shoulder roll which i can use vs low ranked guys or street fighters.. But vs decent boxers i would never. The most i would do is use the shoulder pull back counter... But not the guard
So many fighters get knocked out trying to copy the shoulder roll.

This one always stuck with me for some reason, probably the most static shoulder roll Iíve ever seen.

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So many fighters get knocked out trying to copy the shoulder roll.

This one always stuck with me for some reason, probably the most static shoulder roll Iíve ever seen.

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Mike Tyson could be moved to in between if coaches today knew how to train that style

Floyd Patterson fought like Mike so it can be done
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