USADA, VADA, and athletic comission testing?

[WarVeteranO01]

What is the difference? & I dont mean bias preferences as in one is shadier than the other because 2 of the 3 have their shady sides and we can argue til we are blue in the face what those reasons are. But does anyone have actual scientific fact(s) for what they test for? How much they test for? & for what any of them can test for, like what is undectectable through testing?

[Larry the boss]

Let the commission do their jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WarVeteranO01]

Let the commission do their jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes I agree.

[SplitSecond]

VADA is supposedly alot cheaper and the main difference in testing is that VADA performs CIR(tests for synthetic testosterone) on every sample, no if's and or buts

USADA is supposedly very expensive and "usually" only perform the CIR testing on samples which are over the 4:1 T/E ratio

[WarVeteranO01]

VADA is supposedly alot cheaper and the main difference in testing is that VADA performs CIR(tests for synthetic testosterone) on every sample, no if's and or buts

USADA is supposedly very expensive and "usually" only perform the CIR testing on samples which are over the 4:1 T/E ratio

Interesting, thanks! Would be cool if Fox news did a special and investigated Labs like this to get in depth with their protocols and make sure theyre obiding.

[radioraheem]

VADA is supposedly alot cheaper and the main difference in testing is that VADA performs CIR(tests for synthetic testosterone) on every sample, no if's and or buts

USADA is supposedly very expensive and "usually" only perform the CIR testing on samples which are over the 4:1 T/E ratio

Not true. Both VADA and USADA do CIR testing regardless of ratio. The main difference though is USADA takes more samples, which drives up cost. VADA takes less samples, which drives down the cost.

[radioraheem]

Interesting, thanks! Would be cool if Fox news did a special and investigated Labs like this to get in depth with their protocols and make sure theyre obiding.

There will never be any such thing done because neither VADA nor USADA test samples internally. They just take samples and send them off to the exact same lab (UCLA) which conducts the tests and send them back results. They test for way more substances than the Commission tests.

[SplitSecond]

Not true. Both VADA and USADA do CIR testing regardless of ratio. The main difference though is USADA takes more samples, which drives up cost. VADA takes less samples, which drives down the cost.

so nothing i said was false, yet you're claiming something was not true

??

or are you trying saying that "yes, USADA does in fact perform CIR on "every" sample"?

[WarVeteranO01]

There will never be any such thing done because neither VADA nor USADA test samples internally. They just take samples and send them off to the exact same lab (UCLA) which conducts the tests and send them back results. They test for way more substances than the Commission tests.

So UCLA does the testing? wow, why not cut out the middle man and have college labs do the test? Seems like VADA and USADA are making $ off their names alone.

[Francis M.]

Usada does not check for synthetic testosterone unless the levels are above 4-1... It used to be 6-1....

Vada checks each time they test.