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  • An informative post on Clenbuterol in recent light of the Canelo incident

    Come to your own conclusions, and do your own research.


    What is Clenbuterol?

    Clenbuterol is classified as a sympathomimetic amine, meaning that it is a synthetic subtance analogous to natural neurotransmitters (such as adrenaline) that act on the sympathetic nervous system. Medically, it's value is primarily as a bronchodilator, enabling asthma patients to breathe more easily, but it is most likely to be used by athletes to accelerate weight loss. In simpler terms, Clenbuterol does the following: helps reduce fat mass loss at an accelerated rate, increased protein synthesis and power output (supposedly, on output), and decrease the rate of muscle breakdown while cutting weight. This is a very effective drug for bodybuilding, or in general, any athletes seeking to lose weight while retaining muscle mass and strength. Typically, a cycle will start off at a small concentration, such as 20 mcg, and generally reach a maximum daily limit of 120 mcg over a period of time. A recommended cycle time period is 14 days on, 14 days off (variations exist, of course), with a slow and steady build-up of dosage, due in part as your body slowly builds tolerance. Many people choose to incorporate additional suppliments of taurine and potassium to their diets, in order to combat the side effects of clenbuterol.


    What is the half-life of clenbuterol?

    Studies have shown that the clenbuterol half-life is approximately 36 hours. A half-life is the period of time required for the concentration amount of drug in the body to be reduced by one-half. We usually consider the half-life of a drug in relation to the amount of the drug in plasma.


    How long does it take for clenbuterol to get out of your system?

    Drug detection time refers to the length of time during which drug testing will indicate drug elements in the urine, hair, saliva, or blood. This includes the time from when the drug can be first detected to the point in time when you will test clean.

    Clenbuterol is excreted from the body in the urine and thus can be detected by analysis using such technology as mass spectrometry. The clenbuterol detection time is 4-6 days after administration, by urine analysis.


    VADA Letter about Canelo's positive tests (see link below for image of the letter, or see the summary below):

    http://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net...0fa6179aaa.jpg


    Summary

    Canelo took two tests:

    "Test A" on February 17th in Jalisco, Mexico, which contained 0.6 - 0.8 ng/ml of Clenbuterol and Adverse (??? not sure if this meant there was something else?)

    "Test B" on February 20th in Jalisco, Mexico, which contained 0.06 - 0.008 ng/ml of Clenbuterol.


    Scientific study on Clenbuterol absorption in humans

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4045696

    Therapeutic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration.

  • #2
    These PEDS are well known to Bodybuilders. They use it a lot.

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    • #3
      Disgusting. I truly believe Joshua is on the same drug as well. Cheater.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SniXSniPe View Post
        Come to your own conclusions, and do your own research.


        What is Clenbuterol?

        Clenbuterol is classified as a sympathomimetic amine, meaning that it is a synthetic subtance analogous to natural neurotransmitters (such as adrenaline) that act on the sympathetic nervous system. Medically, it's value is primarily as a bronchodilator, enabling asthma patients to breathe more easily, but it is most likely to be used by athletes to accelerate weight loss. In simpler terms, Clenbuterol does the following: helps reduce fat mass loss at an accelerated rate, increased protein synthesis and power output (supposedly, on output), and decrease the rate of muscle breakdown while cutting weight. This is a very effective drug for bodybuilding, or in general, any athletes seeking to lose weight while retaining muscle mass and strength. Typically, a cycle will start off at a small concentration, such as 20 mcg, and generally reach a maximum daily limit of 120 mcg over a period of time. A recommended cycle time period is 14 days on, 14 days off (variations exist, of course), with a slow and steady build-up of dosage, due in part as your body slowly builds tolerance. Many people choose to incorporate additional suppliments of taurine and potassium to their diets, in order to combat the side effects of clenbuterol.


        What is the half-life of clenbuterol?

        Studies have shown that the clenbuterol half-life is approximately 36 hours. A half-life is the period of time required for the concentration amount of drug in the body to be reduced by one-half. We usually consider the half-life of a drug in relation to the amount of the drug in plasma.


        How long does it take for clenbuterol to get out of your system?

        Drug detection time refers to the length of time during which drug testing will indicate drug elements in the urine, hair, saliva, or blood. This includes the time from when the drug can be first detected to the point in time when you will test clean.

        Clenbuterol is excreted from the body in the urine and thus can be detected by analysis using such technology as mass spectrometry. The clenbuterol detection time is 4-6 days after administration, by urine analysis.


        VADA Letter about Canelo's positive tests (see link below for image of the letter, or see the summary below):

        http://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net...0fa6179aaa.jpg


        Summary

        Canelo took two tests:

        "Test A" on February 17th in Jalisco, Mexico, which contained 0.6 - 0.8 ng/ml of Clenbuterol and Adverse (??? not sure if this meant there was something else?)

        "Test B" on February 20th in Jalisco, Mexico, which contained 0.06 - 0.008 ng/ml of Clenbuterol.


        Scientific study on Clenbuterol absorption in humans

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4045696

        Therapeutic dose (20, 40 and 80 micrograms/man) of clenbuterol hydrochloride, a beta 2-adrenergic stimulant, was orally administered to healthy volunteers, and the unmetabolized drug in plasma and urine was determined by enzyme immunoassay. The plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h. When the drug was orally administered repeatedly to men twice a day, the plasma level reached the plateau within 4 d after the initial administration. At that time, the plasma levels of the unchanged form were 0.2 to 0.3 ng/ml and 0.5 to 0.6 ng/ml at doses of 20 and 40 micrograms/man, respectively. The bound ratio of the drug to plasma protein was estimated to be 89-98% at a single administration of 80 micrograms of the drug. The cumulative urinary excretion of unchanged compound corresponded to about 20% of the administered dose as measured at 72 h following a single oral administration.
        AWESOME post.

        I had been wandering what the ng/ml of metabolites found in the test.

        Admittedly, that is a very low amount, but also included in your post, it shows that only after a few days after last dose, you're that low..


        Now, the most important question, IMO, which would be quite easy to study, is HOW MUCH "contaminated meat" does it take to produce levels of detectable Clen. metabolites in the body? And can Canelo give receipts/evidence of when/where he ate his meat leading up to the week prior to the tests to determine if those locations he ate at, or purchased meat from, do indeed show contamination.

        That's the only way I'll be convinced it is more reasonable for him to test positive due to contaminated meat, as opposed to him wanting a competitive advantage.

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        • #5
          How about posting one of the hundreds of articles about Mexican meat containing clen and many other athletes testing positive for it because of Mexican cattle being given the substance?

          The NFL even had to issue a warning to players not to eat Mexican meats.
          And, from 2014, "Meat tested in the Mexican state of Guanajuato showed that 30% of the 175 samples testd showed clenbuterol."
          Last edited by Redd Foxx; 03-06-2018, 12:56 PM.

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          • #6
            Is this something you can use 6mos ago & still see benefits from with stamina? I'd assume if Canelo was legit using this that would be the angle for him using this. Or would you only see benefits while using & then your stamina goes to sh^t again so you gotta risk getting caught for seeing benefits?

            I'd assume it to have lasting benefits like other PEDs like this. Anabolic steroids specifically have been shown in studies to give users life long benefits (in theory, as I don't think the studies proved it more than 10yrs after usage).

            But if you would get lasting benefits upon usage it would seem to me you'd wanna take this while training (more casually or just off season harder training) BEFORE any drug testing came around & then hard stop once VADA could be stopping by your house.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
              How about posting one of the hundreds of articles about Mexican meat containing clen and many other athletes testing positive for it because of Mexican cattle being given the substance?
              Feel free to add whatever good source of information you find that you'd like, if you feel it's a good addition to the topic.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                How about posting one of the hundreds of articles about Mexican meat containing clen and many other athletes testing positive for it because of Mexican cattle being given the substance?

                Spanish Cyclist, who won many Cycling Championships including Tour de France, Alberto Contador was banned for 2 years for using Clenbuterol. He also blamed it on tainted beef... But nobody believed, and he was stripped everything he won in Pro Cycling. He couldn't even participate in 2012 Olympics too.

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                • #9
                  https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/clenbuterol#section=MeSH-Pharmacological-Classification

                  If you want to go to a reliable source.
                  Instead of some non scientific website like the TS is using

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the information. Didn't realize Canelo failed 2 drug tests. They keep quoting this one doctor.. Any other sources weigh in?

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