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Old 01-19-2020, 07:21 PM #11
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Martin won a WBC belt at 154, won fights at 160, and fought at 168.

Rijker was indeed probably too small.
Yeah I always thought Martin looked bloated when she moved up in weight. She definitely looked small when she was stopped by Laila Ali
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:23 PM #12
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Yeah I always thought Martin looked bloated when she moved up in weight. She definitely looked small when she was stopped by Laila Ali
That was all the way up at 168. At 154 I think she could stop Shields.
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Old 01-19-2020, 07:25 PM #13
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That was all the way up at 168. At 154 I think she could stop Shields.
It's possible. Martin could punch.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:09 PM #14
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Agreed especially at this point. Shields would be a massive favorite .
"Massive" favorite? No she would not.
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:10 PM #15
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Laila in her prime
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Shields by UD.

The same guys who clown Shields competition, pick a fighter from an era where there was even worst competition.

Amazing.

Shields is a 2x Olympic champion.

Women's Olympic boxing didn't even exist when Laila was fighting. There weren't enough women.

Ali was a sideshow who benefited greatly from her last name and a pioneer, but not much more.

Plus, she ducked a ton of people
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"Massive" favorite? No she would not.
Ali is coming off the couch after almost 13 years if she could even make 168 yes I will bet the house shields will be the favorite . Unless ali can pull a big george which I dont see happening . Just my two cents . Let's see if / when they release the line where it's at then we can talk .
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Old 01-19-2020, 08:39 PM #18
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Ali is coming off the couch after almost 13 years if she could even make 168 yes I will bet the house shields will be the favorite . Unless ali can pull a big george which I dont see happening . Just my two cents . Let's see if / when they release the line where it's at then we can talk .
Oh my bad. I thought you were talking about in their primes. My mistake and you're right. She would be a massive underdog now
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Ali is beautiful... Shields... not so much beautiful.
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Ali had some pop so if she lands shes hurting Shields for sure. My girl Hanna dropped Shields & shes a very distance 2nd to Ali in power.

That said prime vs prime is sci fi fantasy bs so who gives a f#ck. I do suspect if a 42 year old Ali took some time to get in shape she'd have a solid chance to beat Shields NOW. Maybe 60/40, 70/30 Shields.
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