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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
    Loma, Usyk and Gvodzdyk.

    3 kings whipping guys in their back yard and taking home all the belts and multiple FOTY awards.

    Americans like Spence Thurman Davis and Crawford KNOW they will always get preferential treatment and big paydays so they just coast along and have one big fight every 5 years or something. There are exceptions like Danny Jacobs etc but usually it's like this.

    The Ukrainians are out for glory. Beautiful to watch.
    Can't put much credibility into someone who believes Pac=Duran

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    • #32
      Ukraine deserves credit for having three champions. It’s never easy. Maybe you guys cAn surpass Puerto Rico.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
        I'm not sure there's a #1 boxing nation. America still has the most professionals and maybe the most champions and most people entering the sport, training etc;

        I think Europe in general is the strongest region currently as far as elite fighters go and highest number of champions with Eastern Europe being stronger than Western. Asia being the far and away leader bantamweight and below currently.

        What I will say is that since the Eastern Europeans have being turning pro at a higher rate (in the past it wasn't allowed or plain very difficult to turn pro), having more success in general I think with good teaching, training etc; the sport is leading in the direction like when Latino fighters were coming more and more into prominence in the 50's and 60's where they are here to stay and succeed as much as that pains many. The British boxing scene is at it's peak and producing at a higher rate than previous too. Numbers-wise Eastern Europe is still at the minimum turning pro and such but that will change in time too.

        Boxing has always had these cycles. It was the Irish, then the Italians and Jews (mostly from Eastern Europe), then African Americans, then the Latino's, now it's the Europeans.

        Bottom line just enjoy it because great fighters and great styles and people call from all over and all add value and contribute to the sport. Don't cut yourself off to regions and countries like posters here like Mexican puppet, 187 proof, Shadoww, mcdonalds etc;
        Exactly, what a great post. I wouldn't add anything to it.

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        • #34
          I read that Gvodzdyk is a national hero in Ukraine for slaughtering a black man for his nation.

          Remember, the west funds neo Nazi nationalist groups in Ukraine to fight back against Russians. Straight up neo Nazis. I mean, Russia it self is involved in ethnonationalism obviously.

          But Gvodzdyk is a huge hero. Ukranians like to replay the killing of Stevenson and laugh. They love Gvodzdyk.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
            Wrong!!!!

            Latino fighters ****tt on all them

            Canelo
            Mikey
            Santa Cruz
            Ramirez etc just to name a few
            Add Benavidez, Rey Vargas, Zurdo, Navarette, Estrada, Berchelt, Munguia.

            Probably forgetting a few other Mexican or Mexican American champions.
            Last edited by Lion81; 12-13-2018, 08:51 PM.

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            • #36
              Lomachenko overrated and Usyk prob can’t hang with the top 3 heavyweights (got schooled by Bellew till he gassed). Good fighters but not great.

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              • #37
                AJ, Fury, Billy Jo Saunders, Kell Brook, Amir Khan, Callum Smith, Eubank, Joyce

                Uk is leading

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mr Giggles View Post
                  AJ, Fury, Billy Jo Saunders, Kell Brook, Amir Khan, Callum Smith, Eubank, Joyce

                  Uk is leading
                  We're only counting champions.

                  Mexico I believe is around 6 or 7.

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                  • #39
                    Ukraine's had a great run. Klitschkos, Lomachenko, Usyk, and now Gvozdyk reaching the peaks of the sport.

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                    • #40
                      Don't sleep on the undefeated flyweight champ Artem Dalakian.

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