How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Nick Name]

Yeah, you owned my dick all the thread long.
I answered you in the end anyway.

[Nick Name]

You know, despite the colourful language my goal here was just to have one more soul saved, yours or another one's it's the same.
Therefore if I don't succeed in making you believe, I do lose, but you sure don't win, if you get my point.

Anyway if someone else reads this and decides to believe, I'd have reached my goal even if I don't know it. If it's not squealpiggy, it's someone else. All souls are equal in front of God. See you around, b!tch.

[squealpiggy]

I don't give a f()ck, he's still obviously not held as a good example by the Church.
Just as the Spanish Inquisition (done by the Church itself) is not seen as a good practice by the Curch of today. People make mistakes, and put remedy to it.

Another embarrassing climbdown.

[Nick Name]

Another embarrassing climbdown.

No big deal, Hitler clearly used religion to hook in ingenuous people, and the Pope never excommunicated him to avoid reprisals on other catholics.
But truth is that Hitler considered the Church to be a threat to his aims of power.
Goebbels openly considered the Vatican as enemy of National Socialism, and prohibited publications from the Vatican, as written in Goebbels' diaries:
May 24, 1942 – The Führer is inexorably determined to annihilate christian churches after the victory.
So as you see, Hitler started out as a "catholic" because he was accidentally born in a traditionally catholic country, so he had to conform with it to gain consensus. Then when he gained the power, he showed what his real beliefs were.

So my point is still up that the Nazis failed to follow Jesus' rules, and your sentence that the Nazis "respected Jesus' words" is still a big slither down from you. So I'd stop gloating around if I was you, chubby.

God wins anyway, and I don't lose since if you don't believe, there might be some other user that reads and decides to try and believe. If just one will do so, I'd have won my battle. And you're just another hyper-cultivated nerd who likes to show off his knowledge for the sake of speculation and vanity.

[squealpiggy]

No big deal, Hitler clearly used religion to hook in ingenuous people, and the Pope never excommunicated him to avoid reprisals on other catholics.
But truth is that Hitler considered the Church to be a threat to his aims of power.
Goebbels openly considered the Vatican as enemy of National Socialism, and prohibited publications from the Vatican, as written in Goebbels' diaries:
May 24, 1942 – The Führer is inexorably determined to annihilate christian churches after the victory.
So as you see, Hitler started out as a "catholic" because he was accidentally born in a traditionally catholic country, so he had to conform with it to gain consensus. Then when he gained the power, he showed what his real beliefs were.

So my point is still up that the Nazis failed to follow Jesus' rules, and your sentence that the Nazis "respected Jesus' words" is still a big slither down from you. So I'd stop gloating around if I was you, chubby.

God wins anyway, and I don't lose since if you don't believe, there might be some other user that reads and decides to try and believe. If just one will do so, I'd have won my battle. And you're just another hyper-cultivated nerd who likes to show off his knowledge for the sake of speculation and vanity.

So to summarize - Hitler: Not an atheist.

[xfrodobagginsx]

So to summarize - Hitler: Not an atheist.

Hitler was NOT a Christian. He was deeply involved in the occult. He also had ministers arrested and many of them killed because they preached against him.

[Spartacus Sully]

Hitler was NOT a Christian. He was deeply involved in the occult. He also had ministers arrested and many of them killed because they preached against him.

1933 Hitler stated, "The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."

on March 23, 1933, he addressed the Reichstag: "The National Government regards the two Christian confessions (i.e. Catholicism and Protestantism) as factors essential to the soul of the German people. ... We hold the spiritual forces of Christianity to be indispensable elements in the moral uplift of most of the German people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_H...igious_beliefs

christian or not...he used the religion to convince millions of people that they were doing gods work.


some christian religions seem to have the right to ignore the teachins of jesus.....look at all the popes that called for people to fight the crusades even though jesus clearly said love they enemy......look at all the english quakers with their slaves.......Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them (Matthew 7:12).....and these are the fuking amish...the pias of the pia and they cant even follow jesus's teachings......the salem witch trials with the puritans.....look at modern day politicians saying one thing and doing something completely diffrent while nothing they do is very religious yet they still get 2 million more votes becuse they claim to be catholic......

soooo really what makes hitler any less of a christian then the popes who sent hundres of thousands of men to their death fighting the turks?

or the english quakers who enslaved men for hundreds of years and continued to enslave them for a hundred more even after their wrongs had been pointed out to them by fellow christians in 1688?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1688_Ge...gainst_Slavery

or the puritans who after escaping religious persocution started the persecute their own?

or were they all not christians either?

[squealpiggy]

Hitler was an atheist who declared himself a believer to trick people in.

Hitler - Clearly not an atheist.

[Spartacus Sully]

hitler - "Positive Christian"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

[squealpiggy]

Oh no, Hitler could never be a christian just because he went on about jesus all the time! Hitler must be a member of whatever group I am currently vilifying today!