World Records

[yngwie]

-How it was that the longest fight wasn't the same as the one with more rounds?.
-I don't think you should count the old olympic champions as the most olympic golds, it should be for Felix Savon, Teofilo Stevenson and Lazslo Papp.
-Felix Savon was also the fighter that won more world amateur championships.
-Fidel LaBarba was the first one to win olympic gold and professional world title.
-Floyd Patterson the first that did it at heavyweight.
-Jackie Fields is the youngest olympic champion at 16.
-Leo Randolph the youngest olympic and world champion.
-Edwin Valero the first champion to retire with all his fights being knockout wins.
-Bernard Hopkins holds the record for middleweight defenses and Sven Ottke and Joe Calzaghe hold the one for super middleweight, if i'm right Tito holds that title at welter.
-Manny Pacquiao is a 6 division world champion, he won titles of the 4 major orgs (criteria of the International Boxing Hall of Fame).
-Lomachenko and Muangsurin have the title of less fights to win a world title.
-Roy Jones Jr. is the first fighter to win a round without getting hit (by CompuBox).
-Georgy Gedo was the first fighter to compete at 4 olympic games.
-If i'm right, Jeff Fenech won a world title in less time that anyone after turning pro (6 months after his debut).

[Marchegiano]

-How it was that the longest fight wasn't the same as the one with more rounds?.

The rule systems used during that time. Round were downs, there is no scheduled end to a round just like there is no scheduled end to a fight. Bowen and Burke not only fought longer, they were on their feet more.

-I don't think you should count the old olympic champions as the most olympic golds, it should be for Felix Savon, Teofilo Stevenson and Lazslo Papp.

I am interested in your opinion, but you're going to have to give me more reason than that. Would you find noting the ancients more acceptable if I also had the modern record holders?

-Felix Savon was also the fighter that won more world amateur championships.
-Fidel LaBarba was the first one to win olympic gold and professional world title.
-Floyd Patterson the first that did it at heavyweight.
-Jackie Fields is the youngest olympic champion at 16.
-Leo Randolph the youngest olympic and world champion.
-Edwin Valero the first champion to retire with all his fights being knockout wins.
-Bernard Hopkins holds the record for middleweight defenses and Sven Ottke and Joe Calzaghe hold the one for super middleweight, if i'm right Tito holds that title at welter.
-Manny Pacquiao is a 6 division world champion, he won titles of the 4 major orgs (criteria of the International Boxing Hall of Fame).
-Lomachenko and Muangsurin have the title of less fights to win a world title.
-Roy Jones Jr. is the first fighter to win a round without getting hit (by CompuBox).
-Georgy Gedo was the first fighter to compete at 4 olympic games.
-If i'm right, Jeff Fenech won a world title in less time that anyone after turning pro (6 months after his debut).

Nice healthy list bud. I'll look into and add them in a moment.

[jack p]

Didn't Dempsey have 26 first round ko's ?
Also Greb fighting blind in one eye since 1921 managing
to fight and be competitive 5 years is a first

[soul_survivor]

Did Rocky really cause the retirements of 24 pros? Lol

[BigBear]

And technically, Tyson didn't really become champion until he was 21, a few days shy of his 22nd birthday when he beat Michael Spinks for the lineal championship. But it still makes him the youngest.

Spinks was stripped of the belt against Tonny Tucker in 1987 tyson still Youngest Hope this helps

[Willie Pep 229]

Spinks was stripped of the belt against Tonny Tucker in 1987 tyson still Youngest Hope this helps

Lineal - Patterson is two months younger then Tyson.

[Willie Pep 229]

Spinks was stripped of the belt against Tonny Tucker in 1987 tyson still Youngest Hope this helps

Who cares what a santioning body does titles are won and lost in the ring. Spinks was champion until he wasn't (conscious that is).

[QueensburyRules]

And technically, Tyson didn't really become champion until he was 21, a few days shy of his 22nd birthday when he beat Michael Spinks for the lineal championship. But it still makes him the youngest.

- - Technically you don't understand the retroactive clause that boxing lineals use.

Tubsy Lar is credited with 20 consecutive title defenses in spite of holding just one belt in a multi belt era where his first belt won vs Norton who never won a heavy titleholder in the ring, and then to compound lineal idiocy, he didn't fight "lineal" champ, the morbidly ill Ali until his 9th title fight, meaning the lineal boys proactively retro fitted Lar in lineal title defenses.

Then to slather on DUM on top of dum, Lar ditches his WBC for a non title fight against helpless Marvis Frazier, but wait!!! Yes, Virginia the "lineal dumplings" count that as a title defense that would go on to become the dummed down 20 consecutive title defenses.

So indeed, 20 yr old Mike becomes the youngest hvy champ, age 20 by lineal criteria, but he did so much more in unifying all the belts and making it all look like riding the breeze in the park that made the hvy title once again Boxing's Crown Jewel after Lar's sewer run.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Technically you don't understand the retroactive clause that boxing lineals use.

Tubsy Lar is credited with 20 consecutive title defenses in spite of holding just one belt in a multi belt era where his first belt won vs Norton who never won a heavy titleholder in the ring, and then to compound lineal idiocy, he didn't fight "lineal" champ, the morbidly ill Ali until his 9th title fight, meaning the lineal boys proactively retro fitted Lar in lineal title defenses.

Then to slather on DUM on top of dum, Lar ditches his WBC for a non title fight against helpless Marvis Frazier, but wait!!! Yes, Virginia the "lineal dumplings" count that as a title defense that would go on to become the dummed down 20 consecutive title defenses.

So indeed, 20 yr old Mike becomes the youngest hvy champ, age 20 by lineal criteria, but he did so much more in unifying all the belts and making it all look like riding the breeze in the park that made the hvy title once again Boxing's Crown Jewel after Lar's sewer run.

But wait there's more: if Ali had beaten Frazier in '71 then both the Quarry and Bonavena (15 round) tune up fights would today be remembered as Ali title defenses (and rightly so.)

Yea the lineal has many problems but not once have we lienal guys gotten down on our knees and sucked scantioning body ****!

Better to be a lineal guy then a WBC b-itch.

[QueensburyRules]

But wait there's more: if Ali had beaten Frazier in '71 then both the Quarry and Bonavena (15 round) tune up fights would today be remembered as Ali title defenses (and rightly so.)

Yea the lineal has many problems but not once have we lienal guys gotten down on our knees and sucked scantioning body ****!

Better to be a lineal guy then a WBC b-itch.

- - Indeed, you bring up an interesting point in that Ali purposely revoked his title so his friend and sparmate Ellis could win it with nary a peep from Lineal Loonies, but seemingly revoked Jeffries relinquishing his title before refereeing Hart vs Root with Hart as the KO victor appointed by Jeff as the new heavywt champ.

Yet we see Hart and subsequent upsets all the way to JJ are "lineal" until 350lb Jeff comes out of retirement to fight JJ, who presumably now holds 2 lineal titles after having whooped Burns in Oz.

I'm a boxing guy who adheres to the attempt to make boxing into a more credible sport via fair rules of engagement that Lord Queensberry attempted.