Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
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Who fought the tougher competition? Floyd Mayweather Jr or Bernard Hopkins?
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Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View PostJones was undefeated and 18 months away from beating James Toney - a guy who is a legit ATG and no less than P4P #2 at that time.
Pacquiao, OTOH, had already been beaten by Bradley and KTFO courtesy of JMM by the time Floyd got his hands on him.
I'm sorry but 1993 Roy Jones jr is a stiffer test when compared to an ole' bum shoulder already beaten and KTFO'ed 2015 Manny Paquiao..
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostI think that's a fair point. I suppose its always important to clearly define terms when debating anything. What precisely is meant by words like prime, physical prime, peak, etc. Lots of factors to consider when deciding what version of a fighter was the very best one. As we know, a fighter's physical prime doesn't necessarily align with his best or most significant wins. For example, Floyd's greatest win, a UD over Pac wasn't his greatest performance and both fighters would have much preferred to step into the ring as a prior version of themselves.
But I digress, Tito was prime but was too small for Hopkins. Just look at Wilfredo Gomez, dominate at 122, he was a monster at that weight; as soon as he moved up to 126 he got destroyed by Sanchez.
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Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View PostJones was undefeated and 18 months away from beating James Toney - a guy who is a legit ATG and no less than P4P #2 at that time.
Pacquiao, OTOH, had already been beaten by Bradley and KTFO courtesy of JMM by the time Floyd got his hands on him.
I'm sorry but 1993 Roy Jones jr is a stiffer test when compared to an ole' bum shoulder already beaten and KTFO'ed 2015 Manny Paquiao..
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostYou don't even know what prime means. How can they be prime but not peak?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postthey have no idea that the time matters, not just the namesOriginally posted by therealpugilist View Postthis is about overall body of work and oppoents, of course roy is the greatest fighter either had fought but neither time was he in his absolute prime.
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Originally posted by djtmal View Postwho fought tougher comp Hopkins...
there's no tougher comp than a prime, undefeated jones, prime, undefeated tito, an undefeated slightly past prime Calzaghe, and prime, undefeated Kovalev…
the closest to that Floyd has is a prime undefeated hatton, corrales, and canelo
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostWhat knowledgeable fan could argue with this?
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