Originally posted by General Zod
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James Toney Or Lennox Lewis? Who's Greater?
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Originally posted by iron mike tyson View Postyou also say he was stripped of all hes titles he vacated the wba and ibf because of there mandatories (ruiz and byrdd) and retired on the wbc
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Originally posted by General Zod View PostWhat has his Amateur career got to do with his pro career?
Dude you are trolling with this: Grant? Biggs? Frank Bruno? Akinwande? Morrison? Briggs? Botha?
Are these elite fighters to you? Bruno was a C class fighter at best. Ruddock was shot to hell after two wars with Tyson, why aren't you taking any of this stuff into account? Mercer deserved a rematch and Lewis never gave him one either
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Originally posted by iron mike tyson View Postdid i say they was elite i said solid wins no boxer in history has a full resume built on hof victorys grant was the next big thing bruno was the biggest and most loved heavyweight in britain briggs was still lineal champ mercer shud of got a rematch but lewis fought for a title instead do u knock him for that??
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Originally posted by General Zod View PostHe was going to get stripped by the WBC, if he didnt give Vitali a rematch. Even Manny Steward would say he was dissapointed that Lewis didnt fight Vitali again. As for the IBF and WBA belts, whats the point of having a belt if you are not going to face your mandatories?
do you honestly believe ruiz and byrd would of beat lewis or you jsut clutching at straws
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Close, but Lennox Lewis was the greater fighter. Lennox avenged his losses, Toney did not.
Toney has those 2 losses to Griffin and the losses to Jones (who really outclassed him) and Thadzi, and he received several gift decisions (Tiberi, etc).
That being said, Toney when fully focused (Jirov fight) was a great fighter.
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Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostAvoid Byrd? No. Avoid Ruiz? gimme a break.
Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostInconclusive win over Vitali? Look at the mans face. I never called you a lier. Struggled with Bruno? Thats a negative.
Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostHe avenged Rahman with the best two piece in the sports history. He did have "trouble" with Holyfield but he clearly won both of them even though one was scored a draw. He made McCall quit and dude was crying in the ring.
Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostToney is not in the Hall of fame .
Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostAnd no, that was not a prime tyson...your only valid statement. But Lennox still knocked out the man in front of him. Have a nice day. I enjoyed dissecting your message
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Toney is the bigger underachiever of all time, one of the greatest talents of all times( on Folyd's level) and couldn't be a top 3 pound for pound, it's like Toney tried so hard to not be the greatest, having lackluster performances against B level fighters.
Lennox is a top 10 HW, nuff said.
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Originally posted by General Zod View PostIf you have a belt you have to defend it against your mandos, its really that simple
yah cuz titles are important in this day and age
Bruno Jab, gave Lewis fits, he also had him badly hurt as well in that fight. His win over Vitali was inconclusive Vitali was ahead on points and wanted to continue hence the demand for a rematch
how many completed rounds where in the klitschko fight was lewis not coming into it?? bruno got stopped game over
McCall shouldn't of even been in the ring, he was in drug rehab for his out of control cocaine addiction and was clearly not the same fighter that Lewis had faced before
Of course he is: 3 divison world champion Has fought in 5 weight classes wins over: Littles, Nunn, McCallum, Jirov and Holyfield
technically he aint been inducted yet
You havent dissected anything. If the fighter in front of you is completely shot then it cant be called a great win. Was Berbicks win over Ali great according to you? The last time that Tyson had beaten a top opponent was Ruddock back in 92.
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