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  • #11
    Originally posted by True That View Post
    GGG vs. Alvarez: Who really won
    September 18, 2017 |

    By Bradley D. Cision: Another predictable, controversial, and expected decision has been handed down in the most anticipated fight of the year last Saturday night with the Saul “Canelo Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) vs. middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (37-0-1, 33 KOs) being scored as a controversial 12 round draw at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Many boxing fans have been waiting for the Canelo Golovkin fight for almost two years, but many boxing fans predicted that if the fight went to the scorecards, Canelo would find a way to win.




    Fortunately for GGG, the worst that happened was that Canelo was given a draw, and didn’t steal his titles away. Many people saw the fight as a clear, although close win for GGG, and a few saw it as a legitimate draw.

    What most people saw is GGG controlling the pace for 90 percent of the fight, backing Alvarez up to the ropes constantly, and out-landing him in jabs by almost 50 jabs. The jab controlled the pace of the fight. GGG out-landed Canelo 218-169 and landed more punches in 10 of 12 rounds.

    Alvarez also looked like he had minimal answers for GGG as he was on his bike until he fought in spurts trying to counterpunch GGG with his back to the ropes constantly, especially in the later rounds where GGG looked completely comfortable and Alvarez had no real answer for a fighter that finally wasn’t smaller, or past his prime, or has a weak chin.

    In an anonymous online poll, a whopping 79% of the people polled thought GGG won the fight. Only 10% thought Canelo won, and 11% thought it was a draw.




    Who did you have winning Canelo-GGG?
    10%
    Canelo Alvarez
    (386 votes)

    79%
    Gennady Golovkin
    (3044 votes)

    11%
    Draw
    (410 votes)

    3840 votes total were submitted in this online poll.

    Out of a total of 69 boxing writers and fighters, a landslide 54 thought GGG won the fight. Only FIVE thought Canelo won, and the rest had it a draw.

    Teddy Atlas ——————————–>118-110 GGG

    Brian Campbell (CBS) ———————>117-111 GGG

    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) —————→ 117-111 GGG

    Harold Lederman (HBO) ——————116-112 GGG

    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ————————>116-112 GGG

    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ————>116-112 GGG

    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) ———–>116-112 GGG

    Amir Khan ———————————>116-112 GGG

    Matthew Macklin ————————–>116-112 GGG

    Steve Lillis (BoxNation) ——————→ 116-112 GGG

    Bob Velin (USA Today) ——————–>116-112 GGG

    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) ———–>116-112 GGG

    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ———→ 116-112 GGG

    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) —→ 116-112 GGG

    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ———→ 116-112 GGG

    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ————>116-113 GGG

    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ——————>115-112 GGG

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ————————>115-113 GGG

    Gary Locket ——————————→ 115-113 GGG

    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) —————–>115-113 GGG

    Phil Murphy (ESPN) ———————–>115-113 GGG

    Mike Harris (SI) —————————>115-113 GGG

    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ——>115-113 GGG

    MMA Brazil ——————————>115-113 GGG

    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) ————→ 115-113 GGG

    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) —————→ 115-113 GGG

    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ———>115-113 GGG

    Joel Diaz ———————————>115-113 GGG

    Max Kellerman————–>115:113 GGG

    Dave Moretti (judge) ——>115:113 GGG

    Lennox Lewis —————————>Golovkin

    Austin Trout ——————————>Golovkin

    Danny Jacobs ————->Golovkin

    Enzo Macarenelli —————————Golovkin

    James Brady (SB Nation) —————>Golovkin

    Terence Crawford ————————>Golovkin

    Sergio Martinez —————————>Golovkin

    Liam Smith ——————————>Golovkin

    Peter Quillin ——————————>Golovkin

    Liam Williams —————————>Golovkin

    Ohara Davies ——————————→ Golovkin

    Luke Campbell —————————>Golovkin

    Dave Coldwell —————————>Golovkin

    Badou Jack ——————————>Golovkin

    Kevin Kelly ————————→ Golovkin

    Dana White ———–>Golovkin

    Steve Kim ———————————–>Golovkin

    Doug Fischer ——————————–>Golovkin

    Ring TV Cynthia Conte, M.Rosenthal—Golovkin

    Michael Montero —————————→ Golovkin

    Joe Rogan (UFC) —————————→ Golovkin

    Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ————Golovkin

    Sergey Kovalev ————————————→ Golovkin

    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ———————————–> Golovkin

    Don trella (judge) ————————>114:114 Draw

    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) —→ 114-114 Draw

    Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) ———–>114-114 Draw

    Associated Press ————————–>114-114 Draw

    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) —————→ 114-114 Draw

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ———————>114-114 Draw

    Roy Jones Jr.———————————>114:114 Draw

    Kenny Porter ——————————>114-114 Draw

    Tommy Hearns —————————–>114:114 Draw

    De La Hoya ——————————–>115-113 Canelo

    Bernard Hopkins ————————–>115-113 Canelo

    Erik Morales ——————————→ 116-112 Canelo

    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr ———————————>116:112 Canelo

    Adalaide Byrd (Judge) ———————————->118:110 Canelo

    Unfortunately for the sport, this type of judging will continue as we have no oversight except the commissions themselves and they have already forgiven the one 118-110 scorecard from Adalaide Byrd.
    hahaha even liam smith who picked Canelo to win admitted GGG won the fight!!!!Good stuff, what is that like 95% of boxing and MMA media picking GGG?

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    • #12
      When Teddy Atlas scores it wide for GGG, you know it was a robbery for Canelo.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
        hahaha even liam smith who picked Canelo to win admitted GGG won the fight!!!!Good stuff, what is that like 95% of boxing and MMA media picking GGG?


        Lol, Pretty Much

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        • #14
          Originally posted by True That View Post
          GGG vs. Alvarez: Who really won
          September 18, 2017 |

          By Bradley D. Cision: Another predictable, controversial, and expected decision has been handed down in the most anticipated fight of the year last Saturday night with the Saul “Canelo Alvarez (49-1-2, 34 KOs) vs. middleweight champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (37-0-1, 33 KOs) being scored as a controversial 12 round draw at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

          Many boxing fans have been waiting for the Canelo Golovkin fight for almost two years, but many boxing fans predicted that if the fight went to the scorecards, Canelo would find a way to win.




          Fortunately for GGG, the worst that happened was that Canelo was given a draw, and didn’t steal his titles away. Many people saw the fight as a clear, although close win for GGG, and a few saw it as a legitimate draw.

          What most people saw is GGG controlling the pace for 90 percent of the fight, backing Alvarez up to the ropes constantly, and out-landing him in jabs by almost 50 jabs. The jab controlled the pace of the fight. GGG out-landed Canelo 218-169 and landed more punches in 10 of 12 rounds.

          Alvarez also looked like he had minimal answers for GGG as he was on his bike until he fought in spurts trying to counterpunch GGG with his back to the ropes constantly, especially in the later rounds where GGG looked completely comfortable and Alvarez had no real answer for a fighter that finally wasn’t smaller, or past his prime, or has a weak chin.

          In an anonymous online poll, a whopping 79% of the people polled thought GGG won the fight. Only 10% thought Canelo won, and 11% thought it was a draw.




          Who did you have winning Canelo-GGG?
          10%
          Canelo Alvarez
          (386 votes)

          79%
          Gennady Golovkin
          (3044 votes)

          11%
          Draw
          (410 votes)

          3840 votes total were submitted in this online poll.

          Out of a total of 69 boxing writers and fighters, a landslide 54 thought GGG won the fight. Only FIVE thought Canelo won, and the rest had it a draw.

          Teddy Atlas ——————————–>118-110 GGG

          Brian Campbell (CBS) ———————>117-111 GGG

          Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) —————→ 117-111 GGG

          Harold Lederman (HBO) ——————116-112 GGG

          Dan Rafael (ESPN) ————————>116-112 GGG

          Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ————>116-112 GGG

          Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) ———–>116-112 GGG

          Amir Khan ———————————>116-112 GGG

          Matthew Macklin ————————–>116-112 GGG

          Steve Lillis (BoxNation) ——————→ 116-112 GGG

          Bob Velin (USA Today) ——————–>116-112 GGG

          Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) ———–>116-112 GGG

          Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ———→ 116-112 GGG

          Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) —→ 116-112 GGG

          Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ———→ 116-112 GGG

          Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ————>116-113 GGG

          Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ——————>115-112 GGG

          Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ————————>115-113 GGG

          Gary Locket ——————————→ 115-113 GGG

          Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) —————–>115-113 GGG

          Phil Murphy (ESPN) ———————–>115-113 GGG

          Mike Harris (SI) —————————>115-113 GGG

          Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ——>115-113 GGG

          MMA Brazil ——————————>115-113 GGG

          Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) ————→ 115-113 GGG

          Rob Tatum (Combat Press) —————→ 115-113 GGG

          Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ———>115-113 GGG

          Joel Diaz ———————————>115-113 GGG

          Max Kellerman————–>115:113 GGG

          Dave Moretti (judge) ——>115:113 GGG

          Lennox Lewis —————————>Golovkin

          Austin Trout ——————————>Golovkin

          Danny Jacobs ————->Golovkin

          Enzo Macarenelli —————————Golovkin

          James Brady (SB Nation) —————>Golovkin

          Terence Crawford ————————>Golovkin

          Sergio Martinez —————————>Golovkin

          Liam Smith ——————————>Golovkin

          Peter Quillin ——————————>Golovkin

          Liam Williams —————————>Golovkin

          Ohara Davies ——————————→ Golovkin

          Luke Campbell —————————>Golovkin

          Dave Coldwell —————————>Golovkin

          Badou Jack ——————————>Golovkin

          Kevin Kelly ————————→ Golovkin

          Dana White ———–>Golovkin

          Steve Kim ———————————–>Golovkin

          Doug Fischer ——————————–>Golovkin

          Ring TV Cynthia Conte, M.Rosenthal—Golovkin

          Michael Montero —————————→ Golovkin

          Joe Rogan (UFC) —————————→ Golovkin

          Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) ————Golovkin

          Sergey Kovalev ————————————→ Golovkin

          Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ———————————–> Golovkin

          Don trella (judge) ————————>114:114 Draw

          Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) —→ 114-114 Draw

          Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) ———–>114-114 Draw

          Associated Press ————————–>114-114 Draw

          Lance Pugmire (LA Times) —————→ 114-114 Draw

          Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ———————>114-114 Draw

          Roy Jones Jr.———————————>114:114 Draw

          Kenny Porter ——————————>114-114 Draw

          Tommy Hearns —————————–>114:114 Draw

          De La Hoya ——————————–>115-113 Canelo

          Bernard Hopkins ————————–>115-113 Canelo

          Erik Morales ——————————→ 116-112 Canelo

          Julio Cesar Chavez Sr ———————————>116:112 Canelo

          Adalaide Byrd (Judge) ———————————->118:110 Canelo

          Unfortunately for the sport, this type of judging will continue as we have no oversight except the commissions themselves and they have already forgiven the one 118-110 scorecard from Adalaide Byrd.
          Plus these huge public polls...

          Bad Left Hook/SB Nation Poll:

          https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/9/1...core-the-fight



          There is also a twitter poll with over three thousand votes which got virtually identical results...


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          • #15
            It's hurting it but if it was killing it, boxing would have been dead many years ago.

            118-110 Canelo SMH ridiculous

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            • #16
              boxing has ALWAYS been corrupt like ALL sports in the US. Its funny you poor fans don't realize that gambling runs ALL professional sports

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              • #17
                Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
                Another negative take away from a good fight. Atlas is right, stephen A is wrong. I would agree with Stephen A, but the problem is deeper and is consistent I cannot believe it was "simply a problem with one judges ineptitude" it happens every other big fight. This lady had to have been paid off or something of that nature.

                It was not that hard of a fight to score. GGG was controlling the ring with his jab, and simply landing more punches. Canelo was running, picking his shots.
                The only thing killing the sport is the dumb manipulated fans.....Nelo won that fight by one round period.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by j.razor View Post
                  The only thing killing the sport is the dumb manipulated fans.....Nelo won that fight by one round period.
                  Which round did you score even?

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