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  • hmmm......

    let's look at the map.

    the saudi , kuwaiti , u.a.e. , qatari economies all depend on oil tankers in the shipping lanes of the persian gulf.

    i wonder who they think is a threat to their shipping lines.......

    i wonder , wonder.......

    could it be israel who is nowhere near the persian gulf?

    hmmmm......

    or could it be iran who did attack their shipping back in the 80's?

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    • Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
      What you are saying makes absolutely no sense, Tua. The government of Saudi Arabia hates Israel. It is simply acknowledged that the Americans are the ones who are preventing Saudi Arabia creating more hostility towards Israel. Iran poses no direct military threat to Gulf Arab states as Israel does, period. All these puppet states are hand tied through military and economic pressures exerted towards by the West. If it didn’t exist, Israel wouldn’t exist
      of course they hate israel.

      but israel is not threat to them.

      when did israel ever attack the saudis or kuwaitis or qataris , etc.?

      and don't say it doesn't make sense because it has happened before.

      remember when israel bombed iraq's nuclear facilities?

      they flew through jordanian and saudi air space to avoid iraqi air force detection.

      saudi air force is one of the most advanced in the world with the best equipment money can buy.

      the jordanian air force , back then , had the best pilots out of all the arab countries. british trained.

      you think the israelis just flew through jordanian/saudi air space undetected?

      they didn't want iraq to have nuclear weapons then and they don't want iran to have it now.

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      • Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
        Let’s see,

        Israel is a Zionist state which believes in greater Israel. Israel is a nation which has violated the most UN resolutions in the region. Israel has obtained 100’s of nuclear weapons illegally. Invaded Lebanon and destroyed the country. Israel existence is a threat to the whole Middle East period. Yet somehow Iran is more of a threat simply because they have allies and the Shia Union is strong.
        It's not a "union" when it's being ruled with an iron grip from one place. It's a hegemony. Iran would like to expand its hegemony from Iran, Syria and the West Bank to include Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the Gulf states and probably beyond. Iran with nukes would be unstoppable for the target countries, and Israel would of course be allowed to remain as a handy bogeyman for any state that refused to be cowed by the implied threat of annihilation.

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        • Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
          The world needs to deal with a nuclear Iran just like they did with North Korea, Pakistan and Iran. This process was started by Iran years ago and we now have entered the final stages. Nuclear Iran is a reality now and these terrorist attacks and so called potential strikes will not stop the program at any cost.

          Long live The Islamic Republic of Iran

          Israel, the U.S. wont let that happen. Israel sees a nuclear Iran as a threat to its existence and will plan accordingly.


          Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
          Honestly no one believes that crap. Israel is the most hatred state in the Middle East by a comfortable margin. Firstly, they supposedly brought these weapons to fight against Saddam now it’s the Iranians, laughable. If it wasn’t for America, all Arab states would have gone to war with Israel a long time ago.

          Iran is not a threat to Saudi Arabia; Israel is a greater threat than Iran period.

          nobody is doubting that israel is the most hated but you are dead wrong when it comes to iran. Sure, israel is the most hated, but tua is right in saying that other arab nations fear iran more than they fear israel.

          Why do you think saddam hussein acted like he had WMDs & risked losing his power pretending he had them? It wasnt because of israel or even the U.S., it was to keep Iran at bay. Saddam wanted to keep that reputation intact for as long as he can so as to not appear weak to Iran who they already went to war with.

          As for arab states going to war against israel, LOL youngin, that already happened YEARS AGO. It was called the Arab Israeli war in 1948.

          Israel vs Egypt, Saudi Arabia,Iraq,Jordan,Lebannon,Syria,Yemen basically almost all muslim brotherhoods and it was unanimous decision on all scorecards for Israel.

          Loved the story about rockets on their way to Israel suddenly malfunctioning. LMFAOOO.

          Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
          Let’s see,

          Israel is a Zionist state which believes in greater Israel. Israel is a nation which has violated the most UN resolutions in the region. Israel has obtained 100’s of nuclear weapons illegally. Invaded Lebanon and destroyed the country. Israel existence is a threat to the whole Middle East period. Yet somehow Iran is more of a threat simply because they have allies and the Shia Union is strong.

          Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
          What you are saying makes absolutely no sense, Tua. The government of Saudi Arabia hates Israel. It is simply acknowledged that the Americans are the ones who are preventing Saudi Arabia creating more hostility towards Israel. Iran poses no direct military threat to Gulf Arab states as Israel does, period. All these puppet states are hand tied through military and economic pressures exerted towards by the West. If it didn’t exist, Israel wouldn’t exist

          That whole muslim brotherhood is just a front. Its the fashionable thing to do publicly but behind closed doors, its every country for itself. Israel already have nukes and U.S. backing for the longest. Majority Arab states have dealt with it no problem. Its in the other Arab countries best interest for Iran not to have nuclear weapons. They wont say it publicly, but privately they are hoping Iran doesnt go nuclear.

          As for saudi arabia, they love money more than they hate Israel & with the U.S. one of its biggest customers, they will stand down.
          Last edited by Ragnar Lothbrok; 01-12-2012, 04:52 PM.

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          • Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
            .....I sympathize more with Iran than Israel

            They're just going to spark something.....and were going to have to get involved
            Of course. Israel controls the US.

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            • Originally posted by Ishak Pasha View Post
              Of course. Israel controls the US.
              yeah

              israel owns the u.s.

              the rich , oil arabs own the u.s.

              china owns the u.s.

              in the 80's japan owns the u.s.


              i guess everyone just owns the u.s.

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              • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                yeah

                israel owns the u.s.

                the rich , oil arabs own the u.s.

                china owns the u.s.

                in the 80's japan owns the u.s.


                i guess everyone just owns the u.s.
                Don't get snarky with me, boy.

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                • Originally posted by Ishak Pasha View Post
                  Don't get snarky with me, boy.
                  hey , everyone always says it.

                  in the 80's when the japs were killing us economically...... japan now owns the u.s.

                  now with china..........same thing.


                  then people always say israel owns the u.s. or they say the rich oil arabs do , depending on the topic.

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                  • Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    some of the other arab states are more scared of iran with nukes than israel is.

                    all those f-15's and tornadoes saudi arabia has bought.....

                    all those mirages and f-16's abu dhabi has bought......

                    what do people think they're for?

                    to fight israel? nope.......
                    This is true...

                    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...es-saudis-iran

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                    • This should leave no doubt....


                      Iranian nuclear scientist assassinated in Tehran
                      By Alex Lantier
                      12 January 2012

                      Iranian nuclear scientist Professor Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, 32, was killed yesterday in a bomb blast in Tehran. Witnesses saw motorcyclists attach a magnetic explosive device to his car before the blast.

                      Roshan’s bodyguard, who was driving, was also killed, and an 85-year-old passerby was reportedly wounded. The motorcyclists escaped into traffic.

                      BBC journalists in Tehran reported that the bomb was highly specialized, “a targeted, focused device intended to kill one or two people and small enough not to be heard from far away.”

                      Roshan was a professor at a Tehran technical university and a supervisor at the uranium enrichment facility in Natanz. He had reportedly met with International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors a few days before he was assassinated. It was the fourth killing of an Iranian nuclear scientist since 2010.

                      The US, Israeli and European governments, which are pushing for an oil embargo against Iran to undermine the country’s currency and economy, have accused Iran of intending to build nuclear weapons. They have made clear that they would stop at nothing, including war, to prevent Iran from acquiring such weapons. Iran claims that its nuclear program is for peaceful energy-generating and medical purposes.

                      Tehran Deputy Governor Safar Ali Baratlo blamed the Israeli government for the attack. “The bomb was a magnetic bomb and is the same as those previously used to assassinate scientists, and is the work of the Zionists,” he told Fars News. He speculated that the killing might also be aimed at discouraging people from voting in the March Iranian parliamentary elections: “It seems the Zionists’ efforts are meant to undermine security ahead of the election, so that the people will not turn out in great numbers.”

                      Israeli sources acknowledged that there is a campaign of assassination directed against Iranian scientists, though they did not explicitly take responsibility for Wednesday’s attack. Mickey Segal, a former director of Israel’s Iranian intelligence department, said: “Many bad things have been happening to Iran in the recent period. Iran is in a situation where pressure on it is mounting, and the latest assassination joins the pressure that the Iranian regime is facing.”

                      The day before the murder, Israeli military chief Lt. General Benny Gantz issued what was widely seen as a veiled threat that there would be further attacks inside Iran. He told an Israeli parliamentary panel that 2012 would be a “critical year” for Iran, due to “things that happen to it unnaturally.”

                      US officials responded provocatively to the latest instance of terrorism inside Iran by denouncing Tehran. US State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said she had no “information to share one way or the other.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton attacked Iran for its alleged “provocative rhetoric,” adding that she wanted to “categorically deny” that the US was involved in acts of violence inside Iran.

                      These assurances are politically worthless. It is widely acknowledged, even in the pages of the bourgeois press in the United States and allied countries, that the Western powers are mounting a covert terrorist campaign to destroy Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

                      Theodore Karasik, a security expert at the Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis in Dubai, told the New York Times that magnetic bombs were “clean, easy, and efficient” and therefore commonly used in covert operations. The Times concluded that the assassination “fit a pattern over the past two years of covert operations by the West and its allies to ‘degrade and delay’ Iran’s nuclear program.”

                      The right-wing French daily Le Figaro wrote that “the US and Israel have carried out multiple acts of sabotage against sensitive nuclear installations, while ordering targeted killings of Iranian nuclear experts.” It cited an Iraqi security official, who said: “[The Israeli intelligence agency] Mossad uses the autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan region, which has been infiltrated by its agents. The Israelis use Kurdish opponents of the Iranian regime who have fled to Kurdish regions of Iraq.”

                      There is total silence in the press, however, on the criminal and reckless character of this policy and Washington’s hypocrisy in waging a supposed “war on terror” while supporting terrorist actions against regimes it has targeted for removal. The US and its allies are conducting a campaign of attacks aiming to terrorize Iranian scientists and possibly goad the regime into retaliating in a way that would provide a pretext for a US, Israeli or NATO assault on Iran.

                      In January 2010, a remote-controlled bomb killed Massoud Ali Mohammadi, a Tehran University nuclear scientist. In November 2010, two car bomb blasts similar to those that killed Roshan yesterday killed Shahid Behest University nuclear engineering professor Majid Shahriyari and wounded Imam Hossein University physics department chair Feredeyoun Abbasi-Davani. In July 2011, gunmen in Tehran shot physicist Dr. Darioush Rezai, who reportedly had helped design switches needed to trigger a nuclear warhead.

                      There was also a series of unexplained explosions at Iranian military sites. A November 12, 2011 explosion destroyed the Iranian Revolutionary Guard base at Bid Kaneh, killing 17 people. A separate blast last month damaged a facility for enriching uranium in Isfahan.

                      Tehran also blamed the Western powers for transmitting to Iran the Stuxnet computer virus, which was discovered in late 2010 and badly damaged centrifuges and computer systems at Iranian nuclear facilities, including Natanz. Last February, a video shown at Israeli Lt. General Gabi Ashkenazi’s retirement party reportedly claimed the Stuxnet virus as well as the 2007 bombing of an alleged Syrian nuclear site in the Deir ez-Zor region as Israeli intelligence successes.

                      Last month, Art Keller, a former CIA case officer who worked on Iran, told the Los Angeles Times: “We are definitely doing that. It’s pretty much the stated mission of the [CIA’s] counter-proliferation division to do what it takes to slow… Iran’s weapons of mass destruction.”

                      The murder of Roshan brings the Persian Gulf region and the world one step closer to what would be a devastating regional and possibly global war. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told ITAR-Tass yesterday that military action against Iran would be a “grave mistake, a flagrant error” that could “shake the foundations of the international system.”

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