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Old 03-24-2019, 09:20 PM #11
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It is odd that Roy Jones never fought Collins or Eubank or Benn even though they were all in the same division at the same time.
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It is odd that Roy Jones never fought Collins or Eubank or Benn even though they were all in the same division at the same time.
Can't fight everyone I guess?
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:09 PM #13
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Can't fight everyone I guess?
Yeah, its too bad those fights never happened though.
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Easy win for RJJ. 2 of Collins 3 losses are W’s on Roy’s resume. Collins would’ve just been seen as another “bum” on Roy’s resume.

Solid resume but like everyone else Roy fights, he’d have been turned into a bum by the haters.
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It is odd that Roy Jones never fought Collins or Eubank or Benn even though they were all in the same division at the same time.
From ‘93 - ‘96 Roy fought Hopkins(160), Malinga(160), Toney(168), Sosa(168), and McCallum(175).

Out of those 5 names, a lot of people aren’t familiar with Sosa and Malinga.

Well Malinga beat Benn by decision in 1 of their 2 fights. RJJ TKO’ed Malinga in 3 rounds, 3 years prior. Eubank only managed to win an SD vs Malinga. A little known name on Roy’s resume was giving the Brits hell.

Sosa beat Glen Johnson and had a close, SD loss with Toney.
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Joe would have been a worthless win.

If you look at it incontext, Jones wanted to chase Jones, who had official titles. Winning a WBO title against Joe would mean the WBO pulling his strings again, disencouraging him from facing Jones.

You do have to look at it that context too - facing a British champ like Joe Calzaghe was a major stepdown for Collins...his weakest recent opponent was Carr, a higher class of opponent than Joe. So why would he want to take it when he was owed better? Joe by comparison remained little league for another 8 years.

The facts that he didnt face Calzaghe AND wanted Jones make perfect sense.

In retrospect it was great news for Joe, as Collins may well have outclassed him. A lot of Joes legacy is built on no defeats, rather than his wins.
Collins was the champion, quite happy to beat unknown South Africans and former British champions in title defences but then suddenly not interested in a rising star who was in fact quite well known in the boxing fraternity. Collins didnt drop the title to pursue Jones, he dropped it with a phony injury, decided he was going to become a jockey, and then years later started talking about Jones when he thought wed all forgotten. He knew hes days were numbered after Howard Eastman knocked him out in sparring. Calzaghe wouldve boxed hes ears off, and he knew it. What would Collins have done, knocked Joe out? Who did Collins knock out? He generally outworked the guys he beat. Was he going to outwork Calzaghe? Check the punchstats. Collins was talking a good fight with Benn again a few months ago. When it becomes reality, he disappeared. He never wanted Jones or hed have had another fight to get the public interest to set a fight up with Roy. No, he just started talking again five years after pulling out against Joe, wanting to walk straight into a money fight with Jones. A complete joke.
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Can't fight everyone I guess?
Eubank only fought his mandatory opponents if I remember.

I think his ITV deal may has stipulated this or something.

He also didn't want to fight in the US, some say he ducked Barkley, Jones and Toney.

Benn was more ambitious, he fought Barkley and McClellan.
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I feel like Roy would actually fight him now if Collins still wants it.
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Collins was the champion, quite happy to beat unknown South Africans and former British champions in title defences but then suddenly not interested in a rising star who was in fact quite well known in the boxing fraternity.

naa naa Joe was nothing man, and worse for your counter, he remained so for years after.


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Collins didnt drop the title to pursue Jones,
noone said he did, who u arguing with? not wit me.

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he dropped it with a phony injury,
you are referring to his comeback, which was curtailed with a brain scan. You need to do your research, mate.

but dont get me wrong, I respect both Joe and Steve. I think Steve was better H2H, with scalps over all the top brits, I have no doubt he would have done the same against green Calzaghe.

Both solid world class icons of british/irish boxing.

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