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Old 03-03-2019, 06:59 PM #11
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No way, Jones is not a kick boxer either, he dabbles in Muay Thai . In a kick boxing match all it would take is a right hand and its over. A good puncher in any striking sport defeats a good kicker and the skill sets here in striking are not even close. A good example of this really is Cro Cop vs Miller, Miller wasn't the better puncher then and wasn't a world class kicker. . The same applies here. The puncher whos Joshua is way better then any kicks Jones throws. Jj is knows for spinning elbows anyway not kicking really.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:01 PM #12
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LHW division isn't super stacked with talent outside of a very, very good wrestler in Cormier who also happens to be 4 foot tall.

If AJ could learn to block a lick and kick himself he'd fucc Jon up. UFC striking is primitive compared to a boxer
"UFC striking" as you call it, is a modern evolution of taking the most effective striking styles of every combat sport that actually works in this format. Ironically boxers are the most primitive, as you called it. They're the most limited full contact combat sport. Great as an addition to a mixed martial artist, but utterly useless by itself.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:02 PM #13
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Thatís a interesting concept. If it were a 4 rounder it would be very competitive. Those kicks from bones might chop down AJ tho. But AJ has got some height and if he could stay on the outside it would be to his advantage. Iíd favor Jon Jones 55/45 to win.
Unless AJ just can hit him which seems highly unlikely I don't think Jones last even 4 rounds. Most top pro heavyweight boxers don't last 4 rounds with AJ. Not much faith here on a boxing forum for the world heavyweight boxing champ.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:03 PM #14
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Sorry. I meant to say unless AJ just can not hit him.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:11 PM #15
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No way, Jones is not a kick boxer either, he dabbles in Muay Thai . In a kick boxing match all it would take is a right hand and its over. A good puncher in any striking sport defeats a good kicker and the skill sets here in striking are not even close. A good example of this really is Cro Cop vs Miller, Miller wasn't the better puncher then and wasn't a world class kicker. . The same applies here. The puncher whos Joshua is way better then any kicks Jones throws. Jj is knows for spinning elbows anyway not kicking really.
Finally someone talking sense about this matchup and respecting the great skill of the world best heavyweight boxer and not elevating Jones to unbeatable godlike status.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:12 PM #16
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All joshua needs to do is learn to check the low kick. His high guard is already sufficient enough to block jons roundhouse/high kick. If josh learned how to defend himself from a kick he would merk jon
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Yes, Jones would beat him, because AJ doesn't train to kickbox but JJ does. This isn't that hard to figure out. In fact, without years of training and conditioning, Jones would literally be able to take AJ out with low kicks. You can't get near a kickboxer if you don't know how to take those, and if you haven't conditioned your shins to deal with that punishment. It's not something you pick up in 6 months, or even a year.

Anyone who tells you otherwise has zero understanding of kickboxing. Train with some pro kickboxing/MMA guys and you'll quickly understand the different low kicks make.

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Old 03-03-2019, 07:18 PM #18
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"UFC striking" as you call it, is a modern evolution of taking the most effective striking styles of every combat sport that actually works in this format. Ironically boxers are the most primitive, as you called it. They're the most limited full contact combat sport. Great as an addition to a mixed martial artist, but utterly useless by itself.
Why is it then that so many UFC guys hire boxing trainers to improve their punching? How is it that a 40 year old Mayweather could toy with the much bigger Conor who was the best fist fighter in the UFC and beat him so easily without training or trying?
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:21 PM #19
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With no wrestling I think AJ would win by KO. He might have trouble with the leg kicks but Jones would have trouble with the long fast straight fast powerful punches of the best heavyweight fist fighter in the world. AJ never fought anyone like Jones but Jones never fought anyone even a tenth as good as AJ with his fists. That's why AJ makes so much more money per fight. If champion kick boxers could box good enough to be champion boxers then they would be champion boxers to make so much more money.
I agree with this. If Jones was an equal size it would be different.
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and in Boxing AJ Knocks him out
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