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Old 03-04-2019, 04:11 PM #11
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I realize that truth to an extent but not absolutely... Ali at 25 would have moved straight back from Frazier but still not get caught with the monster left hook... Ali still had the same tendency...

Roy Always has trouble with certain fighters its just some versions are better than others. So yeah an earlier version of Roy beats off Johnson but not Marciano.
- -Ali had major failures against Banks, Cooper, jones, and Mildy, not to mention Oscar before he and Frazier were an item.

When did this mythical Ali exist, some parallel universe where he descends from a golden cloud to tap out a decision before ascending in a golden mist?
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Old 03-04-2019, 04:37 PM #12
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- -Ali had major failures against Banks, Cooper, jones, and Mildy, not to mention Oscar before he and Frazier were an item.

When did this mythical Ali exist, some parallel universe where he descends from a golden cloud to tap out a decision before ascending in a golden mist?
What are you on about, prattlin' bout Queeny? The idea of the post was to state that through different versions, one being closer to prime, the other farther away, certain tendencies remained that could always be exploited...even if they were less exposed under the different circumstances.

What this has to do with Ali's success and failures against tweedle dee and tweedle dum, vis a vis frazier only queeny knows I suspect. But thats why I luv you queensbee...you never let anything like logic, common sense, or subject, get in the way of a good rant! Bless ya
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:37 AM #13
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Weight classes exist for a reason. Whilst it's certainly possible for fighters with exceptional talents to beat the house - such outcomes aren't likely.

No amount of dancing on Roy's part is going to alter the fact that the moment one of Tyson's bombs connect Jones' head is leaving the country via airmail.
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